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A library of words: Discovering Roget's Thesaurus (2023)

41 pointsby NaOH3 days ago

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ttctciyfabout 16 hours ago
The author notes:<p>&gt; since around 1962, publishers have abandoned the side-by-side layout of opposing categories which Roget insisted on as a visual representation of the opposing ideas<p>illustrated by the original&#x27;s side-by-side entries for <i>615 Good</i> and <i>616 Evil</i>, seeing this as an unfortunate<p>&gt; example of one of the many ways book design is actually getting less sophisticated over time.<p>It appears the Gutenberg project also see value in preserving the two columns, at least in their html edition, as can be seen in their rendition of the same passages: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gutenberg.org&#x2F;cache&#x2F;epub&#x2F;10681&#x2F;pg10681-images.html#link619N" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gutenberg.org&#x2F;cache&#x2F;epub&#x2F;10681&#x2F;pg10681-images.ht...</a>. (Link is to a 10M html file).<p>(Though it seems things have moved on, since Evil is now #619.)<p>Surely there must be more programmatic electronic editions, though, given the highly tractable organisation of the book?
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MichaelMoser123about 11 hours ago
I once had a python side project, it parses the 1911 edition of Roget Thesaurus into memory and provides some queries.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;MoserMichael&#x2F;roget-thesaurus-parser">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;MoserMichael&#x2F;roget-thesaurus-parser</a>
Michelangelo11about 2 hours ago
Interesting. So, a kind of precursor to LLMs, or if you like, a pre-electronic, pen-and-paper latent space.
folexabout 12 hours ago
Where does the stereotype &#x27;thesaurus = synonyms + antonyms&#x27; come from?<p>I&#x27;m not a native english speaker, and I never heard that idea besides in, I&#x27;d guess, Friends TV show.<p>I&#x27;ve used thesauruses since my childhood for exactly the task of looking up meanings, explanations, perhaps some etymology baked in.<p>For English, I always use WordNet, it is quite good and works offline on Android.<p>For my basic level of Chinese, Outliers dictionaries are so far the best I have found, but that&#x27;s mainly due to my heavy reliance on the etymology provided there.<p>Well, I guess I got carried away a bit. Back to my question, where thesaurus=synonyms+antonyms comes from?
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5-about 16 hours ago
the cambridge dictionary thesaurus has a similar organisation and i always thought it was a unique quirk (further promulgated by the mobile version calling it &quot;smart thesaurus&quot;).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dictionary.cambridge.org&#x2F;thesaurus&#x2F;articles&#x2F;difference" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dictionary.cambridge.org&#x2F;thesaurus&#x2F;articles&#x2F;differen...</a>