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Why Are There So Many 'Alternative Devices' All of a Sudden?

53 pointsby fortran771 day ago

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ratrocket1 day ago
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drillsteps5about 21 hours ago
Not sure why this hasn&#x27;t triggered a discussion, I thought a lot of readers include parents of young(er) children?<p>I totally lost my teen to TikTok and deeply regret succumbing to their (and my wife&#x27;s) pressure to give them an iPhone at 14 (they&#x27;re 16 now). It&#x27;s like hours upon hours of mindless scrolling, with occasional gaming sprinkled in.<p>My youngest is 10 and has a dependency on school iPad (school was giving up iPads during COVID when they were teaching remotely). We have to monitor their usage closely and unfortunately angry outbursts (ie when it&#x27;s time to stop) are a regular occurrence.<p>The 10yo does have a lot of extra-curricular activities so having a cellphone would be a big help (to know where they are and give them an option to contact us if anything happens). But there&#x27;s just no way I&#x27;m giving them a smartphone anytime soon.<p>I think there&#x27;s sooo many parents in my position and do hope that some of these devices might be able to help.
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spondylosaurus1 day ago
&gt; Bark places calls to law enforcement when it receives an alert about a kid threatening to harm themselves or others, he told me, but those alerts are reviewed by a human first. “We’re not swatting kids,” he said.<p>So any messages your kid sends to their friends could get routed to some random employee at this third-party service? Yikes.
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ringerylessabout 9 hours ago
Greed as the only engine of human enterprise turns out to have negative social effects over and over again.<p>it&#x27;s not that tv or social media must inherently be evil, but when the motivations for building platforms is mind control and market share, and the entity is a collection of contracts designed to allow exploitation of all and sundry concerned we should probably stop and say, hey Adam, your invisible hand is choking me.<p>society should own some things, including rail networks, data networks, and large media intended for mass societal conversations.
pedalpeteabout 17 hours ago
This isn&#x27;t what I expected from this article, this seems to me less about &quot;alternative devices&quot;, and more about devices that are aiming specifically to keep kids safe, which deserves a focus in and of itself.<p>But also, most of these devices are just implementing software, the device isn&#x27;t the important part.<p>There is truly some interesting work happening in device world atm, and I think it is a combination of the desire for a change of behaviors from our phones, as well as new possibilities of what devices can do.<p>I work in the neurotech&#x2F;sleeptech space, and we&#x27;re one of a few companies that are building consumer level EEG devices. The others are trying to sell, &quot;fall asleep faster&quot; tech (with limited scientific backing), we&#x27;re focused on enhancing the restorative function of sleep (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;affectablesleep.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;affectablesleep.com</a>). Neurotech in general is really interesting right now with a few other use cases around measuring focus and specifically re-training focus (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.neurodelabs.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.neurodelabs.com&#x2F;</a>), depression treatment (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.flowneuroscience.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.flowneuroscience.com&#x2F;</a>), and many more.<p>I also find the augmented reality glasses space really interesting.<p>To me, these are &quot;Alternative Devices&quot;, the article really just points out &quot;different phones&quot;.<p>Part of the reason, I believe, we are seeing these new devices, along with the need, is that it is getting less expensive to develop and prototype small scale devices.<p>When I started programming, the LAMP stack was new, and people we raving about how easy it was to get started, then came RoR, then node, and with each new change in language, from download to working code got easier and easier.<p>Hardware is still challenging, but I suspect we may be at the LAMP stack level, and over the next decade, it will also become easier.
ameliusabout 16 hours ago
Can&#x27;t we have a law saying that all devices should be general purpose computing devices, owned by the owner? Then any device can be turned into an &quot;alternative&quot; device, whatever you think that means.
Aerbil313about 16 hours ago
I know I am an outlier case, but I am unable to function in society (or even individually) with an unrestricted smartphone. I&#x27;ll literally not eat, not drink water, not sleep, miss all my classes, final exams, I&#x27;ll miss the plane I booked a month earlier. I am 20yo, not a child either, but I have AuDHD. For years now I&#x27;ve implemented (often custom) solutions that allow me to use WhatsApp and $BANK_APP on a smartphone without having access to any sort of infinitely scrollable content. I&#x27;m living a fine life today - a moderately successful college student. Give me an unrestricted smartphone and you wouldn&#x27;t be able to recognize my face after 3 days. In a week I&#x27;ll likely be sick due to decreased immunity because of poor sleep, lack of nutrition &amp; hydration and lack of self-care.<p>I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;m alone in this, I&#x27;ve certainly seen similar anecdotes over the years. People who literally can&#x27;t live with access to unrestricted smartphones - we exist. I&#x27;m glad to see these sort of &quot;Alternative Device&quot; movements - it surely is my longstanding dream to build a company that produces just that, a smart device you can&#x27;t abuse, a bicycle for the mind with support wheels. Not everybody is healthy enough to ride a normal bicycle - people with disabilities will fall over and injure themselves if you put them on one, or worse, if you force them to use one.<p>I understand the self-control aspect - I&#x27;m trying to build it with various approaches. I hope I&#x27;ll get it figured out before my 30s. It&#x27;s something so many healthy neurotypical people take for granted, yet there is a minority who just can&#x27;t.
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ValdikSSabout 8 hours ago
To be honest, I think the Alternate Devices in a form of a _new smartphone_ miss the point. All current Android smartphones could be dumbified to the same level with the matter of installing appropriate software, no need to buy anything special (and usually rather expensive). I see only an attempt to earn profit in such devices.<p>What I would like to see is a feature phones with the essential functions of a smartphone: proper messengers, proper maps and navigation, but many different form factors and 1+ week of a battery life. This is all possible with the current-generation 4G chips, which have sufficient performance (1GHz ARM core of Unisoc T107&#x2F;T117&#x2F;T127 for example).<p>If you&#x27;re just tired of checking the phone when the notification comes in to understand whether it is important or not, you&#x27;re looking for so-called &#x27;calm technology device&#x27; — just buy a wristband like Xiaomi Band and it will send the notifications to your wrist, you won&#x27;t need to touch the smartphone, which is especially helpful on the street or in a crowded place.
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