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The Hidden Subversive Message in Gangnam Style

148 pointsby lionheartedover 12 years ago

8 comments

steve8918over 12 years ago
I've been traveling in Asia, and was in Korea this last week when Gangnam style really took off, at least on my Facebook feed.<p>I asked one of my tour guides about this, not knowing anything about the relevance of the video, and she basically echoed a lot of the comments about how it was poking fun at Korean materialism and superficialism. She said that Korean culture has really shifted in the last few decades. Her grandparents' and her parents' generation, she said, were very hard-working, and transformed their country from a post-war, 3rd world country into one of the powerhouse economies in the world. But her generation (she said she was 27) wasn't nearly as hardworking, and is enjoying the fruits of her parents labor without putting as much in.<p>She said that the Korean culture had turned very materialistic and superficial as well. Korean males have started to use a lot of the same makeup that females traditionally wear, like foundation, etc. Many girls will have cosmetic surgery done right after high school so that their college graduation pictures will look good, which she said was very important to females. She said her sister practices smiling in the mirror for 15 mins every day, in order to get a certain crease in her mouth, which apparently is the sign of wealth and good luck. She said "double-eyelid surgery" (I guess a type of surgery to add a crease in the eyelids which many Koreans do not have) is so common, that girls don't even consider it surgery anymore. Most eyelid surgeries come with a 2-for-1 deal where they throw in a nosejob as well, and new techniques are constantly being developed, like a form of injection that will lift the nose up temporarily, like a nose job.<p>I found this absolutely incredible, and I said to the tour guide that it must be very hard growing up as a female, with all this pressure. She said that it was only 30% of the female population that engaged in all this materialism/superficialism, and that left 70% of the females that didn't care about it. It was a good attitude, but still 30% seemed awful high to me.<p>My guess is that this is just a phase that developed (or developing) nations go through, and social commentary like this Gangnam style are the first steps in seeing a "reversion to the mean", where things become a lot less extreme.
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Mr24601over 12 years ago
It's not exactly a hidden meaning... if you know what Gangnam is, then the meaning is ridiculously blatant.<p>Also, it says that, "He writes his own songs and choreographs his own videos, which is unheard of in K-Pop.". This is however pretty much the norm for YG, the record studio he belongs to.<p>Big Bang's leader, G-Dragon, writes much of the music and lyrics for the group, along with T.O.P.<p>Examples: 1) 38,354,253 views, "Fantastic Baby" - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAbokV76tkU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAbokV76tkU</a><p>2) 20,106,612 views, "Bad Boy" - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qnV55LUFVM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qnV55LUFVM</a><p>3) 27, 084, 596 views, "Blue" - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GRP1rkE4O0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GRP1rkE4O0</a><p>Also, they don't write their own songs, but YG band 2NE1 has a video with over 50,000,000 views, but it took a few years to get there: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_lSP8Vc3o" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_lSP8Vc3o</a>
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morschover 12 years ago
Cut out of the cultural discourse again: "Unfortunately, this video is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights." Even if some may argue that it's not an important public discourse, it's still annoying in principle. (You can still find the video if you look around.)
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D_Alexover 12 years ago
Wow, I love this - I lived in Korea for about 18 months and can pick up a fair bit of the culture specific messages.<p>For some reason, none of the translations I've seen cover the term "Oppa", which is translatable and kind of important to get the song's meaning. "Oppa" (as I understand it, and I might not be 100% correct) is used by girls to refer to an older male friend, and so "Oppa (nun?) Gangnam style" would mean something like "Daddy's got Gangnam Style", with "daddy" used in the sense of "sugar daddy". At least that is my interpretation and I'd like to see any native Korean speakers comment on this.
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paulsutterover 12 years ago
Hidden message? It's as plain as day. There's nothing subtle about it. My Korean friends know instantly what it's about and why it's hilarious.
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wluuover 12 years ago
There's a pretty good explanation of it I saw posted on Facebook here: <a href="http://www.kpop24.com/Article/ViewArticle.aspx?p=2&#38;aid=135" rel="nofollow">http://www.kpop24.com/Article/ViewArticle.aspx?p=2&#38;aid=1...</a>
sekover 12 years ago
All this stuff reminds me of music from German speaking areas, only without a hidden message. We have also really stupid culture, if you are interested you can look that stuff up ;-)<p>Weird middle class youth culture from Austria: <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krocha" rel="nofollow">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krocha</a><p>You never know if it is a parody or not. Most of it is from Kontor records.<p>Really popular band: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/atzenmusiktv" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/atzenmusiktv</a><p>Another example: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNUUCHsgRu8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNUUCHsgRu8</a><p>We say "Ballermann" music to really trashy party crap: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ballermann+hits" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ballermann+hits</a><p>The texts are disposable. Mostly sex, money, party, drugs and sexy women (and parts of their body).
blhackover 12 years ago
Are we serious with this on, HN? Commentary on pop culture?
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