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SmartThings: Make Your World Smarter

74 pointsby guiseppecalzoneover 12 years ago

18 comments

dansoover 12 years ago
How is this much different than Ninja Blocks, which was funded in March (and a few months late on delivering)? <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ninja/ninja-blocks-connect-your-world-with-the-web" rel="nofollow">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ninja/ninja-blocks-conne...</a>
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georgemcbayover 12 years ago
X10 reborn. I know people who were playing around with stuff like this back in the 90s and the X10 protocol has existed since the mid 70s. I don't know if these are the guys to do it but it does seem like the time is right for this sort of home automation to finally take off.
Tichyover 12 years ago
Sorry, but I think this is pure fantasy. Of course it is possible, but they won't provide all those things for 100K.<p>What I mean is: all they show is a smartphone app and a fancy looking device. All the cool things we all dream about will have to be built on top of that. That is exactly the state we already have without that Kickstarter project (could as well go for Arduino or whatever). Yet nobody is building those things. Hence my conclusions that these are just pipe dreams...<p>Might as well start a Kickstarter for a Teleporter.
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npsimonsover 12 years ago
Why is the link to the backers page? All due respect to the backers, but I want to hear about the project first, not who's backing it. Not hard to find the actual page, just annoying.
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bproperover 12 years ago
very cool - love me some internet of things.<p>A side note: crowd-funding platforms are really sparking a renaissance in hardware startups. VCs have stopped betting on these companies, because software companies have a much cheaper and faster to scale. But the really interesting advancements are going to happen on the open-source hardware side, and consumers are willing to fund that in exchange for early access and involvement in the creative process.
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lpolovetsover 12 years ago
Cool project. In the future, it's probably better for the story to link to the description instead of the list of backers. I'm guessing most people would prefer to initially read about the project instead of seeing who already supports it.
ghostblogover 12 years ago
Whoa... this is amazing. Classic use case for all the tools is letting me know when someone has broken into my wine cellar and turned on the taps.
ssharpover 12 years ago
I started thinking about a similar concept a few months ago. When researching if to connecting various things in your life to some sort of central, network connected, interface already existed, I wasn't entirely surprised to find out there are a few less than inspiring home automation systems developed by garage door opener companies, Time Warner Cable, etc. Their applications are limited and their UI's look pretty terrible.<p>It would be awesome if this could be pulled off in some manor that either has a ton of applications from the vendor, or has a fairly open architecture that allows other sensors / devices to be applied it. And if it can do all of this while still being simple for non-tech people who may still want some basic functionality, I could some big potential in it.
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ashbrahmaover 12 years ago
How is this different from Twine? <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/supermechanical/twine-listen-to-your-world-talk-to-the-internet?ref=live" rel="nofollow">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/supermechanical/twine-li...</a>
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xxbondsxxover 12 years ago
My only concern is that this is a lot of hardware / installation to get some of the basic use cases down, which might be intimidating for non-savvy users. Unless they can sell a home-installation service as well...
frankydpover 12 years ago
I am missing something or is this actually built with a cellular data connection? A new data plan seems like a huge barrier of entry. Why would you not use local internet or at least offer both? Wouldn't most if not all the consumers in this market have in home internet? Cellular data outside of the huge city is terrible on average, even in ATL it is very iffy. Maybe it is because I have never lived in the valley, but cellular data is still a third class service in my experience.<p>Not trying to be negative, just hoping someone from the team could answer on why no wifi?
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ricwover 12 years ago
I don't think these guys know how complex and difficult this is going to be. They might have an SDK out this year, but chances are its pretty rubbish. Its not as if others haven't tried. And having written my PhD thesis on these things I know its a complete and utter pain. Chances for success: less than 1%.
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schiffernover 12 years ago
It's nice to see lots of competition in this area.<p>Small nitpick – on the main page you probably mean "CO Alarms", not "CO2 Alarms".
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ChuckMcMover 12 years ago
Interesting take on the problem. It reminded me of Steve Ciarcia's quest to automate homes [1]. Perhaps this is the right time for it.<p>[1] <a href="http://circuitcellar.com/?s=Home+Control" rel="nofollow">http://circuitcellar.com/?s=Home+Control</a>
swahover 12 years ago
The biggest problem to be solved with home automation, IMHO, is making things cheaper.
chaostheoryover 12 years ago
This is definitely a great idea. My only concern about any products like this, that connect to a centralized location on the Internet, is privacy. There are enough details about me online as it is.
jeffandersenover 12 years ago
My only complaint is that it uses generic bulky looking (from what I see in the photos) add-ons (things). If only they had more slimline pieces to go with the style of the base station.
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jhuckesteinover 12 years ago
I love this idea. Two years ago, when I had just moved to Silicon Valley, I came up with a concept called OpenAnno for a hackathon about Twitter's new annotations API feature. Lucky for me (I didn't realize this then, I didn't know a lot about them), two of the judges were Ron Conway and Paul Graham. I naively presented the project and later ended up talking to Paul and Ron. Ron thought it was interesting and asked me to send him a follow up email. This is what I sent, I just dug it out and thought it might be interesting in this context. I've never really shared it with anyone either so I'd love some feedback even thought it's such a long time ago :)<p>--<p>OpenAnno is Twitter for Objects.<p>We want to build a close approximation of the real world "object graph".<p>OpenAnno stores public annotations (formerly tweets) on unique objects (formerly people). Objects are connected via typed edges (formerly mention, follow, reply), thus establishing the "object graph" (formerly "social graph"). Anybody can add annotations and edges.<p>Objects can be "followed" (an edge-type; there can be other types with other semantics). Objects can follow objects, too. A vendor can follow product ratings of products and adjust prices. This adjustment is pushed to following objects which might order those items once they are cheap enough. An alarm clock can follow your work schedule and your friends and toaster can follow the alarm clock. Thus, OpenAnno becomes the message bus in a global computational network. The interplay of smart objects reacting to one another is incredibly powerful (brains works like that, too).<p>Another application is search: the object graph can give you shopping advice that matches your wardrobe, can summarize and add value to complicated news events, can help you learn new languages and cultures, can suggest shops that sell every item in your fridge etc etc..<p>In certain domains (e.g. shopping) the object graph may be suitable to do analysis/research/simulation.<p>Possible "early annotators":<p>- Cars with license plates (a la bump.com)<p>- Anything with a barcode (a la stickybits.com)<p>- Real World that can be recognized in images (a la Google Goggles)<p>- Pictures/Media (comp. tazpic's presentation from yesterday)<p>- Objects other APIs give you<p>OpenAnno is a desirable partner for the mentioned companies allowing them to put their data in context. Data from non-partners is pulled in through "API tunneling" (as per yesterdays presentation).<p>Yesterday's demo is at <a href="http://www.justin.tv/jonashuckestein/b/264542955#r=Fs6GQLI~&#38;s=05" rel="nofollow">http://www.justin.tv/jonashuckestein/b/264542955#r=Fs6GQLI~&...</a> and a working prototype of the API at <a href="http://openanno.com" rel="nofollow">http://openanno.com</a>. It's built to scale but a rewrite will be necessary (current code is public on github). Everything was built in less than 24 hours.<p>Challenge: We can build the "starting graph" from all the information we can gobble. This is difficult. Getting from there to a close approximation of the "object graph" is even more difficult and interesting.<p>Social proof: PG first called OpenAnno a "superset of Twitter annotations" and then a "communication channel that is bigger than Twitter".<p>--<p><i>sigh</i> You gotta love the "it's built to scale but a rewrite will be necessary" line and the "social proof" section :) Makes me feel like I've come a long way in those two years.<p>Me and my friends talked to SV Angel for a little but I had already decided to take a different job for immigration reasons. Back then I didn't realize that these people were kind of a big deal and I should somehow capitalize on that. Good times :)<p><i>Edit: Formatting</i>
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