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Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

131 pointsby katerayover 12 years ago

22 comments

mnicoleover 12 years ago
Hi Kate, you guys are probably still tweaking away and have all of this noted, but I'll post some issues I have anyway:<p>- Thought I was saving the page from the Settings drop-down where it shows me the URL to my site and says "Update", rather than the "Done" button to the top right.<p>- Expected to be able to drag-and-drop the images to the canvas so I could do it en mass instead of click them, then have the clipart stick to my cursor until I dropped it/resized it before going back into the images panel.<p>- Not being able to see that the elements have styles attributed to them without clicking into them is kind of rough.<p>- Outlining an object by a bounding-box instead of the shape of the object can get confusing when you have multiple layers.<p>- In the layers drop-down, everything is listed as a "Text" element. Some without any description (shape preview would be nice). Should be able to delete the object after selecting it from within this panel too.<p>- I think the layout would be easier/more familiar for people if the top bar options were vertically-aligned to be a toolbar, and if the user actions bar at the bottom was up at the top right. Have a separate floating box or one that comes in from the right side for when you select an object that has attributes/FX to fiddle with.<p>- You can see the code but not edit it?<p>- <i>Just</i> realized where the background editor was. That should be a part of the primary toolbar.<p>Otherwise really interesting, would be great for creating quick instruction manuals and simple product pages. Like someone else mentioned, I am waiting on ReadyMag for this kind of publishing tool, but I like where things are headed here moreso than some other editors I've come across.
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jcromartieover 12 years ago
So, basically, "web publishing is broken because you have to do it on someone else's terms".<p>And then you say "use our stuff instead".
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rbellioover 12 years ago
I like the thought behind this. There is a disparity between the layouts of the print word and the web, though, I think there are a lot of reasons that this is true.<p>For one, the technology that allows this coupling of design and copy has been slowly maturing and at times has been very cumbersome. In the past, sites that tried to break the tabular, "only text" mold were often slow to load and broke without third party libraries.<p>As internet speeds improved so did third party support and the design process for this new technical media. The interoperability of the technologies could still lead to a lot of pain when developing for everyone and doing so in a fashionable way.<p>Now, we're at that fork where everything has matured enough that it's opened up the ability to infuse more character and creativity into our designs and the technology allows the feasibility. However, I think there's still a gap. There's a gap between the idea and the effort required in order to achieve it. There is still transition between the idea, the design and the realization and often we see a loss of inspiration as it comes to that fruition.<p>I think there is still headway to make on the fluidity and experience of the digital domain. That visceral reaction that many of us enjoy when rifling through the pages of a book or glancing through the glossy pages of a magazine have yet to be duplicated, even if this site makes a great stab at it. To remove the consciousness of the square portal of emitted light is going to be the next frontier though.
ktsmithover 12 years ago
This team page reminds me of geocities from the late 90s. <a href="https://www.scrollkit.com/s/iaJos01" rel="nofollow">https://www.scrollkit.com/s/iaJos01</a>
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MatthewPhillipsover 12 years ago
Blame the move toward blogging systems that separated content from presentation. Blame advertising which has to be front-and-center at all times.<p>I wonder how advertising would work on the web if you didn't have omni-present ads but instead sometimes the viewport contained no ads, sometimes it contains big huge ads that take up the entire viewport (like a full-page ad in a magazine). Would that make up for them not being visible at all times? Anyone tried this?
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petercooperover 12 years ago
The ethos here reminds me a lot of the edgier elements of the Web design community in the 1997-2002 period. For some reason, a lot of it died out after that, but there was a real enthusiasm to do some magical stuff and large collectives like the Swank Army were putting out amazing and experimental work (often leaning on early CSS and gigantic nests of tables). I'd love to see that culture come back to the Web in a big way.
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anigbrowlover 12 years ago
You had me until 'Login with Facebook'. It's the new 'Connect with us on AOL'.
reaktivoover 12 years ago
I really like what ReadyMag <a href="http://readymag.com" rel="nofollow">http://readymag.com</a> is proposing in this area.
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splatcollisionover 12 years ago
Edit Room inspired? Be honest... <a href="http://www.edit-room.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.edit-room.com</a> Also template-free blank canvas web design, a little more professional maybe?
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jvalover 12 years ago
I really like this idea.<p>Isn't HN meant to be the kind of place to share this stuff? I love the philosophy behind it, I feel like these guys are having a serious crack at building something that ordinary designers can use to make really beautiful pages without needing to know how to code.<p>The design of that page is really compelling and tasteful. Neatly showcases what the platform can do while retaining your attention.<p>And as for the haters, all I can say is - if you made it to the bottom of the page then they are definitely doing something right. I'm sure if you were part of their target market the final flourish would work too and you would be keen to sign up.
nollidgeover 12 years ago
This one reason I don't read blog articles in an RSS feed. I aggregate them with one, but follow links to the blog owner's site so that I'm reading their content <i>as they designed it</i>.
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sequoiaover 12 years ago
I didn't get the CTA at the end. Join... what? I'm totally unclear about what I'm joining. I like the sentiment of the project: "back to DIY, one-off, unique pages- like in magazines!" but I don't understand how signing up for... something (?) will help me do this.<p>Throw me a bone: show me a bit -at least a video- of what you're offering before asking me to sign up.
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seangranseeover 12 years ago
the page itself makes this look like a step forward for the web, but the video at the bottom makes it look like a step backward.
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cgilover 12 years ago
It's a very nice idea, I would love to see more creativity in the web, but I don't think I agree with the implementation or what I see as the user base. Every blog page is not just a template, it's someone's vision of the world. It's an identity and a brand that the blogger tries to create and extend to its users. Using this new style the blogger would completely lose any form of identity and become more of a sparkling instagram knockoff than a medium to share rich content to its user base.
marksheadover 12 years ago
"The web is the most advanced publishing system we've ever had but the process in which most people publish is backwards next to print."<p>There were probably similar things said about the shift from hand copied books to using printing presses.
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ggreinerover 12 years ago
People hate scrolling or parallax scrolling pages would be much more wide spread, they're easy to make and awesome looking.<p>Relying on the user scrolling I don't believe is a good idea, but the rest of it I definitely agree with.
cwsover 12 years ago
Yeah. One thing scroll kit does really well is allows the screen to be filled with a single idea/image/composition. I haven't seen a lot of sites experiment with serving ads that way though.
Swizecover 12 years ago
Love the "Go slower" idea. Would be very refreshing, if more people started doing this.<p>Then again, I am very much at fault for talking too much and too quickly on twitter.<p>However, I'm not actually certain what your product <i>does</i>.
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d0mover 12 years ago
Please, change the music of the video describing the product.. I had to shut down the volume after 30 seconds of listening to it.
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digitalengineerover 12 years ago
Reminds me of Easel: <a href="https://www.easel.io/" rel="nofollow">https://www.easel.io/</a> Nice.
jffover 12 years ago
I certainly go slower when I try to scroll down a scrollkit page!
evanlivingstonover 12 years ago
Wait, Is there really a picture of blonde girl standing in front of a bunch of Asians with the title 'Make it meaningful'? What message is being conveyed here?