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The Last PC Laptop

141 pointsby janerikover 12 years ago

25 comments

linker3000over 12 years ago
"Want the smallest most portable device you can get away with? "<p>"Want to be always connected to the Internet? Sure you do;"<p>"Just try opening a laptop on a crowded subway train or bus."<p>Someone needs to stop trying to arrange their life around their tech and try it the other way around.<p>If you are so overloaded with work, or so keen at your work, or so behind in your work, that you <i>need</i> to open your laptop on the train and start tapping away then some part of your work-life balance is in serious need of adjustment.<p>If you're <i>THAT</i> valuable to yourself or the business that you <i>MUST</i> be hunched in front of the keyboard, or online, every waking moment then why are you on a train? Your value/benefit demands that you be driven everywhere so you can work in the back of the vehicle and that you have a PA to handle messaging. Right?<p>I am an IT Manager for a high-tech company. Here's my solution, based on my personal values and my value/responsibility/benefit to the business:<p>Samsung Galaxy Note<p>It's a stupidly-big phone AND a moderately-sized tablet. I can keep in touch with emails, speak to people(!), do video calls and Skype/VoIP, check messages and do remote support via RDP/VNC/SSH/OpenVPN if there's a serious crisis when I'm on the move. If needed (rare), I can use the phone for reading/editing documents and PDFs, minor coding work and, if I really want to fill another pocket, it will work with a bluetooth (or miniature USB wired) keyboard.<p>Acer Aspire 5735 laptop.<p>It's a dual-core, 15.6" screen model, about three years old. The laptop comes with me <i>very occasionally</i> when I need it for a meeting or if I need to hook up to some kit when I'm on site. As it happens, the Galaxy Note has an MHL (HDMI) video connector and so I can use it for meeting presentations anyway. Laptop for use on a train? Maybe - on the extremely rare occasion that I need to type up a report on the way back home as it's needed first thing the next day. Typing stuff on the way TO work or site? That was done in the office the day before, or maybe at home if things get sprung on me at very short notice. If I don't grab the laptop, an original Acer Aspire One AA150 netbook comes with me.<p>In a nutshell, I have boiled down my tech-demanding activities to:<p>Desk-based: Use a conventional PC, or my laptop, or my phone (for calls and simple networking diagnostics)<p>On the move: Phone for about 95% of the time. Take laptop or netbook if needed.<p>Considering that the phone is always with me, that means I'm automatically setup for almost all my work and personal tech needs all the time.<p>Would I consider buying a UX31A or similar ultrabook (or a tablet for that matter) - sure, if cost/benefit was not an issue, but the device would probably spend most of its life on a desk, and all the things that make it what it is (size, lightness etc.) would be wasted - unless of course, I turned things on their head and altered my work/lifestyle to fit around the technology - mind you, that would mean taking the train to work instead of driving - and, no, I don't have a chauffeur!
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edanmover 12 years ago
I wanted to buy a new windows laptop that was light, strong, and looked good. I really, really did. Then, because of work reasons, I ended up getting a MacBook Air instead.<p>Now, I've been dead-set against switching to a Mac for a long time, because I am <i>incredibly</i> invested with Windows, more so than almost anyone I know. I didn't want to have to relearn everything, plus rewrite all the scripts I have on my Windows machine.<p>Still, I'm pretty happy with the switch so far. The laptop is everything you could want - small, fast, amazingly easy to pull out and turn on for quick use. I haven't actually tortured the laptop with too much programming <i>yet</i>, but OSX has a lot of small advantages over Windows. I'm not finding it too hard to switch, much easier than I thought I would find it.<p>I can't help feeling that, unless the hardware makers get their act together, I'll never be going back to a Windows-based laptop. The MacBook is just too good.
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Derbastiover 12 years ago
This very much reminds me of the Steve Jobs quote that in the future, laptops and desktops will be like trucks. They will always be around for those who need them, but most people don't need trucks.<p>Personally, I don't quite see that yet with today's hardware and paradigms. The processing power is certainly getting there. My tablet today is significantly more powerful than my laptop in 2006 but still not quite fast enough for compiling stuff etc. Also, tablet user interfaces are still a bit too unwieldy and rigid for programming work and there is something to be said for huge monitors.<p>But then, Windows 8 looks like it could be the solution: A tablet that <i>can</i> run Windows on the go, but transforms into a regular desktop when connected to a keyboard/mouse/screen. The future.
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zalewover 12 years ago
&#62; And even programmers, the audience who would most need all the power and flexibility of laptops, are switching to tablets.<p>programmerS? the link is the only guy I heard of so far, and I even know die-hard ipad fans who laugh at the idea of a tablet being a serious workstation.
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jawngeeover 12 years ago
Interestingly, I'm having the opposite thing happen. Due to this MacBook Pro Retina (I have the fully spec'd version), I firmly believe that my Mac Pro will be the last desktop computer I own.<p>While the Mac Pro (about a year old) still smokes this laptop in a lot of areas, it's not enough smoke that I find myself turning it on half as much as I used to after I got this laptop. Occasionally, if I'm doing some heavy duty OpenFrameworks hacking, I'll switch over.<p>I've moved almost all my video editing to the MBP, mostly because I went with the G-RAID thunderbolt RAID (wrongly assuming they'd introduce a Mac Pro line with Thunderbolt sometime soon). And render times aren't so bad that I miss it all that much, though when I do I will begrudgingly shuffle some files around and fire up the Mac Pro. (I do video installation art as a hobby).<p>I think I will miss how warm the Mac Pro keeps my office in the winter though.<p>I also can't wait to see what next year's line refresh brings.
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abecedariusover 12 years ago
Along with this, I'm considering the Thinkpad X1 Carbon or the Samsung Series 9 -- they're all advertised as lightweight, powerful, and with more vertical resolution than the usual piddling 768px. Anyone tried them and want to weigh in?<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/08/a-worthy-ultrabook-appears-the-thinkpad-x1-carbon-reviewed/" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/08/a-worthy-ultrabook-ap...</a> (edit: previous discussion at <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4428262" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4428262</a> )<p>I'm leaning towards the Thinkpad since I get the impression Thinkpads usually go well with Linux. (I might need to run Windows too, alas.) This will replace a Mac laptop.
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mark_l_watsonover 12 years ago
It is possible that a better future tablet would have good enough programming tools - it will be fun to wait and see.<p>I got rid of all three of my desktop systems (1 Mac, 2 dual Linux/Windows boxes) a few years ago. I don't plan on buying any more Apple gear, but will use what I have until it needs to be replaced: MacBook Pro running Ubuntu, Air 13', a Toshiba laptop Linux/Windows, and a iPad 2. My wife and I live in a very small house in the mountains and not having as much computer clutter is great.<p>The biggest recent technological change in my work/life mix has been the purchase of a Samsung Galaxy III S super sized phone (1280x720 screen resolution). I am amazed by how much I use this device: for just about everything but coding and writing. I do most of my programming in Ruby and Clojure so I don't need much horsepower on my development systems so I can imagine a future where a more powerful phone with a docking station might cover most of my work, writing, and entertainment needs: skip the tablet!<p>All that said, I am likely to purchase a Surface when they are released and the early adopter bugs are ironed out. I used to have fun bashing Microsoft but there are a few things that have softened my view: Bill and Melinda Gate's good works for making the world better, the fact that the surface would fit my needs, and I still have pleasant memories of writing a Windows 1.03 app (the SAIC ANSim neural network tools that had a nice UI for managing training, etc.)
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bradorover 12 years ago
Is this an ad or genuine? I'd trust it more if it didn't come with an amazom affiliate link.
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jacobrover 12 years ago
He has a desktop computer with a bunch of monitors, so I guess his laptop is mostly for email, entertainment and web browsing. Of course a tablet can do that just fine. If you're using a laptop as your main machine, you have different needs.<p>Personally I am planning to retire my desktop computer and buy an ultrabook, probably a Samsung 900X3C. The Samsung is tinner and lighter, and I read it's a bit more solid in the build than the Asus.<p>Anyone tried both the 900X3C and a UX31A? Anyone tried Linux on them?
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john2xover 12 years ago
My biggest problem with PC laptops is getting Linux to run on it painlessly (their trackpads are a close second). How does Linux run on this one?
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madpropsover 12 years ago
Being and UX31A user myself I share your joy. I ditched windows and installed archlinux and tailored it to my liking. This is indeed one fine laptop.<p>I think that until we get something that makes keyboards and screens obsolete there will be room for a laptop.
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jbkover 12 years ago
I have been using the Ux31 (previous version, only 1600x900) on Arch and Windows 8, and I am quite impressed too.<p>I have been a heavy Thinkpad (T42 and T61p) and Macbook Pro user, and I had the chance to test other Ultrabooks, like the Samsung S9 and some cheap Acer. I was quite prejudiceed against Asus, but this machine is really the best I had so far.
RexRollmanover 12 years ago
He does bring out a point about something I have never understood: why does the PC industry love putting stickers on laptops? It is a really annoying and ugly practice.
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Tichyover 12 years ago
I don't see myself typing long texts on a tablet or phone in the foreseeable future. For consuming on the road, it turned out the 10.1" tablet is actually too big and the phone is sufficient.<p>What about the Asus tablet with the detachable keyboard? I saw it in a shop recently and it looked surprisingly solid.<p>Another, perhaps stupid thought: with screen resolutions blowing up, could it become possible to use glasses to see a phone display in a size equivalent to 27"?
jpkeisalaover 12 years ago
I have considered Zenbook over my MacBook Air but I have not changed yet. I am somewhat reluctant moving back to Windows but in the same time I am not much of a Apple fan either. I guess I am on deadlock here, waiting a linux miracle. So, it all boils to software.
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roel_vover 12 years ago
Guess he didn't look very hard for the specs he's quoting. I had a Dell Dimension D430 which was awesome a few years ago (actually it was great until a few weeks ago when I dropped it) and got 6+ hours of battery life easily, and the Z-series Vaio I'm typing this on are just a teeny bit heavier than what he's talking about and also get similar battery life. Plus, for longer times without access to power outlets, there's always the second battery. Better to go from 5 to 10 hours by taking a second battery than going from 5 to 7 by adding extra weight that most of the time you don't use, imo.
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lumberjackover 12 years ago
It is a bit strange that there is a differentiation between battery life and portability. As far as I'm concerned portability is (battery-life * (1/weight)), assuming that you give them the same importance.
DanBCover 12 years ago
It seems he wants a super-powerful tablet. That'd be reasonable for on the go. He'd have a good docking system at home to connect to proper monitor and keyboard, with big storage. There'd be a portable keyboard too, for proper work on the go.<p>He'd still have to take a phone.<p>And, of course, he'd have a struggle with OSs not knowing if they were using horrible tablet interfaces or desktop interfaces; and having to adjust between mouse and touch all the time.
trotskyover 12 years ago
<i>The first thing I did when I got the laptop was wipe it and install the Windows 8 preview</i><p>That's why it won't be your last laptop.
webreacover 12 years ago
My conclusion of this article is that even after so many years, it is still not possible to find a decent computer that fits normal needs even when money is not the issue.<p>I completely agree with the needs of the article: something usable in a subway, with a good screen, 10 hours of battery life, a descent CPU, an (optional) keyboard for productivity and a descent OS.
wildc4rd11over 12 years ago
By emphasizing that this is his last "PC" laptop, I assume he might still buy a laptop in the future but not a PC one. However, all the points listed in the article are reasons for why tablets are more awesome.
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danmaz74over 12 years ago
I have a UX32VD and I really like it - except for the fact that the integrated display sometimes doesn't wake up when it goes to sleep. Did anybody else notice the same problem?
mathattackover 12 years ago
Very good article. I think the leadup lends to a profound conclusion - all this work reaching perfection, and laptops may cease to exist in a few years.
twodayslateover 12 years ago
I am predicting more Lap Docks coming out. They look really nice and it's basically just a screen, keyboard and battery.
dbboltonover 12 years ago
What's with the `?tag=codihorr-20` at the end of the Amazon link?
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