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Does Adobe finally understand developers?

60 pointsby ryanstewartover 12 years ago

8 comments

citricsquidover 12 years ago
Wouldn't the more obvious conclusion be that Adobe believed 10 years ago that the way to make money was to cater to those that <i>don't</i> want to program and just want something that "works" and <i>now</i> they've decided that there is a large enough user base of people that are willing to pay for tools to help with <i>real</i> programming?<p>I don't think these products would have been at all successful 5 or 10 years ago, the web "wasn't ready".<p>&#62; Adobe has been steadily building steam in this area for years, but they have never marketed their efforts so well as they are today.<p>If Adobe have been building these products for years that would mean they <i>haven't</i> been "not understanding developers": they just didn't guess 5 years in advance this is where the web would be. Silly contradiction.
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samarudgeover 12 years ago
I really don't understand this article style<p>&#62;Adobe made a clear statement: we don’t care about coders.<p>&#62;“Adobe made a clear statement: we don’t care about coders.”<p>They write a sentence then quote themselves in big text with highlight. Is this a standard way of presenting an article?
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Nilzorover 12 years ago
"(...) but for now it’s a little underwhelming for those of us who use the outstanding Sublime Text 2 every day".<p>Wait what? I've used Sublime Text 2 for a little while... but I have the impression that it's a fancy Notepad with a cumbersome configuration system. Is it more with regards to web page editing? Can someone enlighten me?
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csenseover 12 years ago
It's been a few years since I've taken a look at Flash; some of the other comments lead me to suspect some of the things I say here will be out of date.<p>I've always stayed away from Flash because you had to shell out a gazillion dollars for the developer tools. I stumbled on the open-source toolchain a few years ago, but I wasn't able to figure it out. All the tutorials I could find were written for the official toolchain, and the docs for the open-source toolchain assumed good knowledge of the official one. swfmill...flasm...mtasc...so confusing!<p>Adobe's recent noises of abandoning Flash Player for Linux hasn't helped my perception of them, either. I develop on Linux if I can. Having to test Flash in Windows -- and not being able to target Linux -- would be a pain.<p>So as far as I'm concerned, Flash is a dying legacy platform; HTML 5 and Coffeescript are the future.
brianfryerover 12 years ago
Great article highlighting some of Adobe's new web-related products.<p>I especially excited about Edge Animate! My little brother (who majoring in Animation) asked me, "If Flash is dying on the Internet, what will people use to create animations?" I didn't quite know how to answer that question a few months ago -- it seemed to me that Flash the application was more accessible than writing dozens, and dozens of lines of code to produce sub-par animations.<p>Yay for Adobe getting into this space, and for charging a subscription fee rather than a huge, up-front price (I believe this will substantially lower the amount of pirated software, too).
89aover 12 years ago
&#62; It seems like Fireworks is the only decent true web design tool that Adobe has in the Creative Suite, but it has a sort of cult following, only the enlightened few drop Photoshop and pick it up instead.<p>YES!, Stop neglecting your only good web design product Adobe
hiphopopotamusover 12 years ago
No
shelfover 12 years ago
Too many subheadings, stopped reading
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