TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Google Passes Microsoft’s Market Value as PC Loses to Web

90 pointsby joshmaover 12 years ago

12 comments

martythemaniakover 12 years ago
I think Google has a kind of purpose and drive which will take it very very far.<p>They want to "organize the world's information", but that's less than half the story - an even bigger challenge is making all this information not only understandable and usable to humans but making it all work seamlessly together - a monumental task they are barely getting started at.<p>Unrelated (but necessary) they also seem to be doing very well at the organizational aspect of absorbing new ideas and companies and integrating them into themselves.
评论 #4598803 未加载
评论 #4599344 未加载
YokoZarover 12 years ago
Alternative headline: Google passes Microsoft's market value as Microsoft gives gobs of cash to shareholders rather than hold onto it to inflate market value.<p>Still, it's a significant thing I suppose. But we tend to ignore the cash position of companies in stories like this. If Google suddenly paid out 100 billion to shareholders tomorrow then it's market value would rightly drop by about 100 billion, but that wouldn't mean Microsoft was suddenly winning again.
ChuckMcMover 12 years ago
Funny APPL has a market cap (624B) that is bigger than Google (248) and "wintel" (248 + 115 = 363) <i>combined</i>.<p>Seriously, that Google has lapped the larger part of what was the Microsoft / Intel juggernaut of the last century is notable of course, but I wonder if its the wrong question.
评论 #4599548 未加载
评论 #4598671 未加载
评论 #4599342 未加载
cmaover 12 years ago
They haven't quite done it on a dividend-adjusted basis yet though.
JumpCrisscrossover 12 years ago
Weak signal given the size of the companies and their volatilities.<p>Let's observe the quoted, albeit stale, Google market capitalisation of $249.2 billion with a current vega-weighted mean implied volatility (market's opinion of what Google's volatility will be) of 31.12% and the quoted Microsoft market cap of $248.7 billion with an IV index of 22.51%. The question is, assuming these two Gaussian random variables vary independently [1], what is the probability that GOOG is still bigger than MSFT in one year? The answer is a <i>hair</i> above 50%. Plugging in $249.65 billion for Google and $248.02 billion for Microsoft (closer to present values) this probability rises closer to 51%.<p>Conclusion: insufficient evidence that this is more than random market jittering just yet.<p>[1] If this were more than a quick, stylised analysis I'd construct a covariance matrix or copula to describe the dependency structure. Given the razor thin odds, however, it is unlikely that correlation will help the OP's case too much.
评论 #4598759 未加载
评论 #4598826 未加载
bencxrover 12 years ago
Yet another "market value defines losing/winning" article between 2 products that don't even compete.
评论 #4599353 未加载
zmmmmmover 12 years ago
It's funny to call it "PC loses to Web" when MS doesn't actually make the PC but the software that <i>runs</i> on the PC. Whether you use Google or Microsoft, you are using a "PC" in the terms of the article. One might say that it is more about a three way contest where MS is losing mainly to Apple, depressing their price down lower than Google, and Google is going up for other reasons.<p>To the extent it is about Google, this is really about commoditization of software : Google is commodotizing the whole OS into the (free) browser. They are commodotizing office software into free Google Apps. They are showing that if you do it at scale and over the web you can operate at such efficiency that you basically give people all this stuff Microsoft charges for and still make huge amounts of money from the advertising revenue, or you can have pay model where the costs are an order of magnitude less than what MS needs to survive in its current form.
jebblueover 12 years ago
1) PC stands for Personal Computer. It is not synonymous with Microsoft or Windows. Personal Computer.<p>2) The web is useless with out Personal Computers or personal computing devices such as smart phones so the web hasn't lost to the PC and the PC hasn't lost to the web, they need each other.
评论 #4600899 未加载
mtgxover 12 years ago
Google's long time dream of becoming a bigger company than Microsoft is becoming real.
评论 #4598384 未加载
debacleover 12 years ago
That's something of a non sequitur, I would think.
EGregover 12 years ago
I guess search is a business after all :)
recoiledsnakeover 12 years ago
PC loses to Web <i>ads</i> is more likely.<p>I think Google's got better at getting people to click on ads. For example, one of the following is a search result and the other is an ad. How many people can differentiate between them on various monitors?<p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/Wmdd0.png" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Wmdd0.png</a><p>I remember the time when Google differentiated itself by clearly marking ads, now it's no longer true for high value keywords.
评论 #4599046 未加载
评论 #4599315 未加载
评论 #4598688 未加载
评论 #4598685 未加载
评论 #4598814 未加载