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ESPN to ISPs: Pay for Your Customers to Play Video

25 pointsby nickbover 16 years ago

11 comments

jmattover 16 years ago
Reverse net neutrality. Instead of the restriction coming from the ISPs it's coming from the content provider. I don't see how going back to mid 1990s style AOL ideology will ever work.<p>To see if your ISP is already involved in this go to <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/index" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/index</a> and click watch now. It also has a scary message if you don't have access:<p><i>ESPN360.com is available at no charge to fans who receive their high-speed internet connection from an ESPN360.com affiliated internet service provider. ESPN360.com is also available to fans that access the internet from U.S. college campuses and U.S. military bases.<p>Your current computer network falls outside of these categories. Here’s how you can get access to ESPN360.com.<p>1. Switch to an ESPN360.com affiliated internet service provider or to contact your internet service provider and request ESPN360.com. Click here to enter your ZIP code and find out which providers in your area carry offer ESPN360.com<p>2. For Verizon Customers Only: Sign-in using remote access if you already get ESPN360.com</i>
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haloover 16 years ago
I seriously hope this crashes and burns. Various industries are trying to encourage this particular business model, and it's undoubtedly terrible for the consumer as it limits choice.<p>It's also worth wondering if ISPs could be accused of anti-competitive practices by encouraging 'product tying'.
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hrabagoover 16 years ago
Ugh, one step closer to the nightmare illustrated in <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/22/how-a-nonneutral-isp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/22/how-a-nonneutral-isp.ht...</a> Here we all were watching the ISPs closely to avoid this from happening, and it turns out that it's the service providers who would take the first step.
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indraneel24over 16 years ago
ESPN360 has been around for years, and I'm honestly surprised it's still running. ESPN is _the_ leader in sports, and I honestly don't know why they don't switch over to a Hulu-type thing, with free content + advertising (I'm sure they can get all their TV advertisers to switch over). I'd love to understand why because, aside from the fact that they themselves don't own sports teams, I don't get it. The day I can watch live sports online is the day I get rid of cable.<p>Also, Verizon paying for this really makes me excited for FiOS to hit my neighborhood.
iigsover 16 years ago
I think this is awesome. To me this represents the first step in the content providers saying "f-you, we're not paying to deliver, you're the one with the money connection to the viewers".<p>The ISPs that are going down the anti-NN rathole are pitting themselves against both their customers and the content providers. In macro they might make some revenue from this stuff but I can't see how it could end well.
dougpover 16 years ago
I never have and never plan on watching sports on espn's web site. I am going to be very disappointed when my bill goes up because of this.
old-greggover 16 years ago
Did you all forget that content rules the Internet just like any other form of media?<p>I'm sure that ESPN, Fox as well as WSJ and New York Times will do just fine. They have <i>content</i>, something that will never become a commodity, while pipes and delivering software will be for sure (if not already). Google understands it, Yahoo understands it, this is why they're beefing up on their own content because I don't think anyone doubts that eventually the gatekeepers of information ("traditional" media) will wake up and grab the rest of middlemen by the balls. There is absolutely no reason for ESPN or anywhere else to allow all kinds of reddits to make money on their content, so they're naturally making it available for customers who pays.<p>What it means for us is now we have yet another vehicle for monetization: can you come up with a way to make TimeWarner a more appealing ISP compared to others? They don't want to be just another no-name pipe provider, they are desperate for value-adding ideas. They are, just look at all that shit they're putting on "Internet CDs" they advertise, like it makes "their internet" safe or faster than someone else's. So if you happen to come up with something better than customized browsers and magical malware blockers, then sell it to them.
paul7986over 16 years ago
Well from a business perspective something like this or capped bandwidth/pay for overages is gonna come to fruition!<p>I have not had Cable TV for a few years and when I watch TV/movie content it's all thru the net. In time more will do the same and advertising will not be able to sustain the losses accrued from fewer &#38; fewer(to zero) cable TV customers!<p>It will take sometime (10 to 20 years), but it's inevitable!
Flemlordover 16 years ago
"Switching ISPs" is too difficult. ESPN should also offer paid subscriptions, which would enable video regardless of your ISP.
sjs382over 16 years ago
ESPN has always offered ESPN360 to a limited number of ISPs. For instance, I can't get it while at work because our ISP doesn't subscribe. Pretty frustrating since I'm a Verizon customer and can get it at home. Would be great if they allowed me to log in with an ISP account rather than do IP-detection.
nazgulnarsilover 16 years ago
can i just proxy through a university system?