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Body Language Reveals Wealth

32 pointsby ablover 16 years ago

10 comments

ecuzzilloover 16 years ago
I should point out that the conclusion of the linked study is complete bullshit. It claimed that poor people are more polite than rich people. What it should have claimed was that poor people <i>who went to Berkeley</i> are more polite than rich people <i>who went to Berkeley</i>.<p>Poor people who go to Berkeley are likely to be moving up in the world relative to their families; their eyes are being opened to a whole new world of knowledge and power and all that, and they are humbled by it.<p>Rich people who go to Berkeley are likely to come from prep schools, and feel vindicated by having been admitted to a top school, and therefore are snooty.<p>The conclusion doesn't jibe at all with my personal experience, either, and I think this is why.
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Erfover 16 years ago
Yes, I do hack my body language, though not in the ways described in the article.<p>Through college, I had a weak posture, submissive body language, and tended to fidget/move around. I often looked goofy.<p>About six months ago, I decided to improve all that. I consciously developed an upright, chest-out posture. I cut down or eliminated unnecessary motions. I keep my hands extended and parallel to the arms, instead of close-fisted and angled inwards. I keep my chin up and my gaze high. I keep my legs outward and, when comfortable, spread apart.<p>By now, it's all become second nature. And it works. Women react much more strongly to me (in a good way). I feel more confident. My body image has greatly improved.<p>As software developers, most of us spend a lot of time seated in chairs and have less than Adonis-like physiques. I highly recommend body language hacking.
ablover 16 years ago
The reason I posted this to HN, is because I am curious as to how many people here hack at their own body language, and whether you tend to focus on "improving" it, or just let it be "natural", whatever that means. And if you are "improving" it, what are your considerations for particular situations? Do you try act as if you are from a lower SES, to try to level yourself with your listener, or the other way around - try to increase the perceived importance of your SES in order to put down your listener?
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tokenadultover 16 years ago
Years ago the author of Dress for Success reported a study noting that women say they like men who are "confident," which asked men to go into bars to start up conversations with women, who then rated the men. If the men were prompted to act confident, the women didn't like the men much. But if the men were prompted to act arrogant, they got much higher ratings from the women. Hmm.
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andreyfover 16 years ago
I guess if you title your paper "Rich people tend to act like assholes", it's harder to get funding for your next research project.
scott_sover 16 years ago
The data is that more fidgeting and grooming correlated with higher SES, and more nodding, agreeing and eybrow raises correlated with lower SES. There's no link to the study itself, but there's no support in this article how they established causation, and further, even with causation established, that the behaviors are for the reason they give.
anuraggoelover 16 years ago
I don't. Even the thought is a bit repulsive to me. Regardless, I don't think it's worth the effort, because people are less likely to infer my wealth from my body language; even if they know nothing about me, they have other (more reliable) sources to go by - my clothes, my accent, my hair etc.
frayingover 16 years ago
This is absolutely true in my experience. I never connected it to SES, though. I just thought the fidgeter/groomer was probably just a jerk.
Silentioover 16 years ago
All seems very subjective to me. The research, I mean.
jwb119over 16 years ago
it would be interesting to know how the body language changed over time.. i.e. is the arrogant body language a cause or effect..