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Hulu requests removal from Boxee

48 pointsby moses1400over 16 years ago

11 comments

nikblackover 16 years ago
There is some background to this that is interesting. The reason why the content holders behind Hulu didn't want their content on Boxee was because it came too close to replicating the television experience.<p>While the advertising was kept in place, it still doesn't attract the rates that normal television does. Given a choice, content holders definitely prefer viewers to tune into ordinary broadcast television to watch their shows - online content is about capturing the potion of viewers who miss shows and don't watch broadcast television.<p>With Boxee, there is the potential that the online content will cut into the broadcast TV audience - hence this decision.<p>What is interesting is that the true motives are now more obvious. Online content, in the form of both iTunes and Hulu, is fine as long as it doesn't cut too close to the broadcast base.<p>Content holders have gone from vigorously defending their network broadcasts to now accepting online content, but only to a point. The next battle will take place when more intelligent PC-like DVR's come out on the market (like the PS3, but at a $100-150 price point) allowing viewers to easily stream online content to a television with a remote. The content owners have a short time window between now and then where they have the best of both worlds - both broadcast and online, but once it all goes online the very lucrative and protected broadcast market will be threatened.<p>With online, there is no more having to acquire broadcast licenses, no more large-scale infrastructure networks to reach your potential audience and no longer limited competition and cable monopolies with packaged channel selection.
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jonursenbachover 16 years ago
It really is a shame for NBCU, and company, to ask Hulu to cut Boxee off. If I recall correctly, didn't content from Hulu that was piped into Boxee still have ads?<p>Hopefully someday they'll realize that when they cut off people from having legal access to their content, people will go back to their illegal methods. When will old media learn?
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babulover 16 years ago
In a way, this is actually a good sign. It shows the content providers are scared. You are not doing things right if you are not shaking things up and scaring people. That is what disruptive technology is about.<p>Many startups face similar challenges and this reminds me of the struggles ones such as GlassesDirect.co.uk had to go through before becoming successful (they could have been crushed many times by Goliaths but fought through) - it had to close several times when major competitors and retailers tried to sabotage its business by forcing manufacturers/suppliers to drop GlassesDirect (else they would withdraw their vastly larger orders) and running smear campaigns in the press with false allegations about why using the service was illegal and substandard.<p>In this case, yes, content providers have a right to choose where/how their content is shown, but this is probably more to do with not getting licensing fees from Boxee than anything else. However, if they do not adopt/embrace legal methods such as Boxee (and insert extra adverts etc. to make the revenue they want), then they only encourage illegal methods.<p>---<p><i>Concerted efforts to sabotage the new venture have proved fruitless. In September, his main supplier mysteriously dropped him. “They suddenly said they couldn’t do business with me. I reckon they had pressure put on them by a high-street chain. It took me a week to find a new supplier and re-do the website.” The trade press confirmed his paranoia when letters and articles appeared questioning the firm’s credentials and the General Optical Council launched an investigation. “Groundless attacks. I have fully qualified opticians working in labs, making the glasses.</i> [<a href="http://www.realbusiness.co.uk/archive/4775601/feature-glassesdirect-it-might-just-work.thtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.realbusiness.co.uk/archive/4775601/feature-glasse...</a>]<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Murray_Wells" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Murray_Wells</a>
IsaacSchlueterover 16 years ago
When I read articles like this, it just makes me sad for Hulu.<p>What an unpleasant predicament it must be to be in bed with such idiotic partners who just Do It Wrong so much of the time.
modocover 16 years ago
It's funny, I ordered an Apple TV to install Boxee on for the bedroom TV today. Hulu was going to be one of the major sources of content for Boxee, however now it sounds like it'll simply be tvtorrents + rss + rtorrent. It's just as easy for me, but it means zero ads. Seems like NBC is the one losing out by this move.
tocommentover 16 years ago
Dumb, question but what is boxee? Why would I use it? I honestly couldn't figure it out from their website nor the wikipedia article about boxee.
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misterbwongover 16 years ago
I really like the way that Boxee and Hulu are handling this. At least they are being honest with their motivations and not trying to strong-arm users with legal mumbo-jumbo.<p>That said, this is very unfortunate news. Just this week, I was contemplating replacing my cable with boxee/internet streams. Oh well.
wmfover 16 years ago
Now I'm not so sure it's worth paying $30 for PlayOn; I'd hate to see it crippled at some point in the future.
donniefitz2over 16 years ago
This is devastating news. WTF? For what reason? The ads are there. What is wrong with these people. So much for innovation.
wastedbrainsover 16 years ago
damn I was loving boxee and if people request out, then you will loose the all in one media experience
sachinagover 16 years ago
You can fullscreen Hulu onto your TV with a PlayStation 3.
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