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How to Run a 5 Whys (with Humans, not Robots)

69 pointsby tomheonover 12 years ago

8 comments

ivixover 12 years ago
The summarised version: 1. Mistakes happen and will always happen. Saying "it wont happen again" doesn't fix the problem. 2. Make a joke to stop people getting defensive.
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sturadnidgeover 12 years ago
As much as I agree with the general message (nobody died, so it's not _that_ bad), and have employed that same technique over the years, the part about root cause is off point IMHO.<p>'Root cause' can absolutely refer to a collection of events. In the example given, clearly both things were causal, clearly you fix both - you don't pick one and label it 'THE root cause' and forget about the other (yes I know he talks about prioritisation, but again that's perfectly valid when addressing a root cause that happens to be a collection).
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tsewlliwover 12 years ago
Brilliant, I've definitely struggled before with how to get people to 1)not worry about being blamed and 2)claim they won't repeat a mistake. This is totally actionable, thanks!
danoover 12 years ago
If you are interested in the root of this methodology, consider reading Toyota Production System by Taiichi Ohno. Page 17 starts the discussion on how asking Why Five times is a method of determining root cause. This book isn't popular, but is worth your time.<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Toyota-Production-System-Beyond-Large-Scale/dp/0915299143" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Toyota-Production-System-Beyond-Large-...</a>
cmckayover 12 years ago
This is more a meta-comment about slideshare than about this presentation in particular. I really like being able to access the slides of talks I've seen, but for talks I haven't seen, there often is just enough that's missing from the slides that I don't get the full picture.<p>Does anybody have a solution to this?<p>Now, having said that, this particular slide deck suffers very little from this problem.
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wpietriover 12 years ago
This was my very favorite talk from the Lean Startup conference. I hope they put up the video as well, which was excellent.
barceover 12 years ago
What if one's humor goes off wrong, which is often the case in these situations?
mikebonnellover 12 years ago
Great talk from LS conference. Thanks for sharing.