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Rice Cooker Hacks - The Ebert Way

219 pointsby rohinover 12 years ago

18 comments

patio11over 12 years ago
<i>Rice Cooker Bread (we think?) for a Snack</i><p>I'll take the liberty of reading the screen for you: Yes, it is bread. Bread in Japanese is a loanword from Portuguese: pan. Japanese bread? Ja-pan. <i>Get it?</i> (This comes from the genre of puns called oyaji gyagu -- "jokes only considered funny by crusty old men.")
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mattmaroonover 12 years ago
Posts like this take the unfortunate (and very American) view of food as fuel, an absolute necessity that you have to get out of the way as cheaply and efficiently as possible. Good food, in that view, is anything where the taste isn't painful.<p>As a foodie, this pains me to see. You cannot cook anything good in a rice maker anymore than you can a microwave except, of course, rice. You cannot cook anything good with a bouillon cube (at bare minimum, buy some decent frozen stock from your local soup store) regardless of technique. Good food to me is worth the time it takes to make.<p>On the other hand, I can understand why people choose to optimize other parts of their life in this way. I constantly remind myself that not everyone wants to spend their Sunday making a quiche and an heirloom bean soup to eat for breakfast and lunch all week. Not everyone wants to roast a chicken every week, save the carcasses, then make a stock once a month. That's fine.<p>But I think everyone should experience it before settling for a life of rice-cooker meals.
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deerpigover 12 years ago
It would seem that everyone here has ignored how many different ways that rice cookers are used in the far east.<p>It's very common to put a whole chicken or salted duck egg (in the shell) in with the rice when it cooks, by the time the rice is done you have a hard boiled egg.<p>Then, you put a wire stand on top of the rice and a shallow metal dish on the stand, and put in some meat, and some vegetables and you have a whole meal.<p>If you don't have access to any other way, rice cookers are not half bad at popping popcorn (though if I have a choice I do it in a wok).<p>I have recently moved from Thailand to Cambodia and am still waiting (four months now) to move my things to Cambodia, but I have a rice cooker.<p>So I still use the rice cooker every morning to make ramen every morning. I buy some ground pork and bean sprouts in the wet market down the street, first boil the water, then add the meat, and then add the soup mix and bean sprouts.<p>Many cheap rice cookers include a steaming rack which you fit above the bowl. I use this all the time to cook frozen dim sum -- or a steamed version of the fritata that was mentioned in the article.<p>As some of the other posts mentioned, it would be nice if there was a low heat setting so it could double as a crock pot, but then, there is a reason that rice cooker pots are made from aluminium and crock pots are a thick ceramic.
ssharpover 12 years ago
What are the benefits of cooking stuff in a rice cooker versus a crock pot? Crock pots are also cheap and (I'm guessing) have a larger capacity, further "optimizing" your time. They usually have two heat settings as well and you can stick the lid on the food and stick the crock right in the fridge for leftovers. I'm sure they both produce equally boring food. Is the rice cooker faster or something?
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tptacekover 12 years ago
<i>The downside is that cooking in a rice cooker is a low fidelity way of cooking.</i><p>If you invest in a PID controller (Auber Instruments sells a particularly well-known line of them), you can make your rice cooker the highest-fidelity cooking appliance in your kitchen. The PID controller reads the temperature in the cooker with a thermocouple probe and strobes the power to the cooker to maintain a precise temperature, resulting in a temperature-controlled water bath.<p>Temperature-controlled water bath cooking ("low temp" cooking, or, inaccurately, "sous vide" cooking) is the future of the modern kitchen. Most proteins, most starches, and many vegetables benefit from it, it's almost as easy to execute as Ebert's rice cooker meals, and has the huge advantage of taking precise timing out of the equation; most low-temp preparations can be started in the morning and plated when you get back from work, like slow-cooker meals.<p>If you're remotely interested in cooking, low-temp cooking is about the nerdiest way you can go about it, and the results really are pretty spectacular: you can get perfect custard-texture egg yolks (not to mention reliably perfect custards of all sorts), an absolutely perfect end-to-end medium rare steak, reliably perfect pork chops, a week's worth of perfect chicken breasts for cold prep (sandwiches and salads) or last-minute pasta dishes, perfect glazed root vegetables --- I keep using the word "perfect" because when you have a small computer making sure your food never goes over or under its ideal target finish temperature by more than a degree or so, that's what you end up with.<p>I have a Polyscience circulator now, but I used to use a Black &#38; Decker rice cooker and an Auber PID controller, and while there are benefits to the professional circulator (I'm pretty sure I can circulate a bathtub and cook a whole pig in it if I really wanted to), pretty much any DIY plan you find on the Internet will do just fine; you can even try what Serious Eats recommends and do your first couple of experiments with a beer cooler.<p>Also, regarding this particular meal: try chicken thighs instead of chicken breasts. Chicken breasts are particularly expensive (everyone wants them), but chicken thighs are more delicious, more forgiving of time/temperature variation, and in long-cooking applications like this, all the downsides (fattiness and toughness) are mitigated by the cook time.<p>If you're just now thinking about starting to cook instead of going out every night, and you don't want to go too nuts with it, I'd recommend a crock pot / slow cooker. They're not sexy, but wow are they ever useful. You can buy a Costco block of chicken thighs and chuck them in your freezer, and then each morning just open one package of them into your slow cooker with an onion and some garlic, salt, and pepper. Run on "slow" all day. Done. Same thing with any cheap chuck cut of beef, or with pork shoulder. Everyone I talk to that "discovers" the slow cooker falls in love with it.
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guylhemover 12 years ago
A rice cooker is nice, but perfecting the art of microwaving is more efficient.<p>With my small microwave :<p>Frozen raw broccoli in the microwave for 2 minutes (then let it cool down and melt the remaining ice for 3 minutes) = crispy broccoli at room temperature.<p>Put rice in a bowl, with more water than rice, microwave for 4 minutes and let it cool down for 2 minutes = rice the way I love it (not over cooked). Goes fine with mustard tuna or other canned fish if you love sauce : open the can, add the rice- you're done.<p>Put cheap frozen minced meat (I insist on cheap - because it usually has more fat, and meat without enough fat won't do good in a microwave) for 3 minutes and a half : it will roast in its own grease, leaving the inside red (I love that- if you dont, let the frozen meat unfreeze and cook for less time). Discard the excess grease.<p>It now usually takes me 10 to prepare a meal. Can't beat that efficiency, except by adding milk to cornflakes!
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pm90over 12 years ago
I just read a comment about not being able to make "anything but rice" on a rice cooker. That is certainly true, but this variety is <i>extremely</i> large. Just google 'biryani', an Indian dish that is made of an aromatic combination of rice and veggies/meat.<p>Since most HN readers are likely to be non-Indians, I would just like to point out: its incredibly easy to make delicious Indian food, and its incredibly easy to make biryani on a rice cooker. The spices are what make Indian food delicious, and these come packaged in small packets at any Indian store (Some even have recipes on the back). Look at a few recipes, try them out and surprise your gf with your amazing cooking skills :)
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cocoflunchyover 12 years ago
I am trying this right now.<p>A few potatoes + one onion + some chicken + spices + 1 and 1/2 cup of water are cooking in the rice cooker.<p>I'll let you know how it was! (My only concern is with the amount of water)
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geargrinderover 12 years ago
I can't get past the misspelled "Rogert" in all the call-outs.
greenmountinover 12 years ago
I have a Zojirushi that I use from time to time to make rice, and have been experimenting with more complete one-pot meals. I can steam several types of vegetables in the last 13 minutes of operation [snow peas, asparagus, broccoli, brussels sprouts, etc] in addition to the easiest "sous vide"-style eggs you'll ever have [trick: cook it whole]. I think fish is possible too, but only have 13 minutes' warning is a little rough.<p>The kicker is that it's a breeze to clean up, I don't even have to use soap and water. It makes a great meal as long as you can go without meat for a day. It also cooks quinoa and can be programmed to have steel cut oats ready for you when you wake up. It would be fascinating to hack it to see if I could recover its cooking rules, or get an early signal about projected time remaining, and I am surprise no one has put this info on the web yet.
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bravuraover 12 years ago
I love this recipe for a one-dish-meal in a rice-cooker:<p>White Chicken Chili<p><a href="http://www.food.com/recipe/crock-pot-white-chicken-chili-114789" rel="nofollow">http://www.food.com/recipe/crock-pot-white-chicken-chili-114...</a><p>It's like someone decided that chili was too colorful, and stripped it of all tones. It's also delicious.<p>Beware of leaving your rice cooker on for hours or days. Although it's sealed and hot (and presumably thus impenetrable to bacteria), some rice cookers are not suited for being left on for too long, and the heating unit will burn. This is regrettable, because I'd love to constantly have a continuous pot of this dish available at a moment's notice.<p>I am still looking for that magic multi-day rice cooker.
mamoswinedover 12 years ago
I learned about cooking with a rice cooker from living in crappy grad student housing, where real cooking appliances were forbidden and no one had a kitchen. I thought I was stuck with a microwave. Thank goodness for the Asian grad students I met who showed me how they made delicious tasty meals with their rice cookers. I would note that please do buy one with an attached steamer because it's a really nice bonus for steaming meat/fish/vegetables.
keeptryingover 12 years ago
Whats the difference between a rice cooker and slow cooker?
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callmeedover 12 years ago
Technically, how different is a rice cooker from a slow cooker (aka crock pot)?<p>I have a rice cooker but I use my slow cooker[1] a lot more. It's especially awesome for cooking steel cut oatmeal. Start it the night before and wake up to oatmeal with all sorts of fruit in it.<p>I personally think a slow cooker is more useful–and they're not really more expensive. But maybe they're just the same.
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mscarboroughover 12 years ago
Get a pressure cooker, you don't have to 'hack' a rice cooker. And the bonus is, you have more predictable cook times.
johnwatson11218over 12 years ago
I just got into this a few months ago and it is amazing. my favorite is steel cut oats. I spray the inside with Pam skip any butter or oil. steamed veggies in the tray with brown rice is so healthy. The oats cook much faster this way and clean up is a breeze.
jjmover 12 years ago
I've been doing this for years, I'm glad that the word is out. For soup the cooker is great, of which I make large amounts of it that I freeze for later in the week.
joshchanover 12 years ago
But Soylent Green is people!