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E17 is out

179 pointsby zemanelover 12 years ago

20 comments

ObjectiveSubover 12 years ago
"Also be aware that this page is large and is meant to provide a lot of important information. It is not for the tl;dr; (too long, didn't read) set of people with minimal attention span. It contains lots of that scary thing called "text" and "information". It is assumed that you can make use of the education you have been provided with that allows you to read and comprehend what has been written."<p>I rolled my eyes at that one. This is an example of the pretentiousness and snark directed at users that people complain about in open-source projects; especially Linux-related ones.
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anigbrowlover 12 years ago
It's disappointing that there's no 'what's new' or introduction to E or even a proper gallery of screenshots. I actually know E fairly well having used versions 14-16, but it's been about a decade...maybe presenting it a bit better would result in a larger userbase?
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billwilliamsover 12 years ago
Opinionated software is tremendous. By removing bullet points and telling users to read 5 some odd pages of dogmatic documentation you're letting the passion ooze from your project. Its saying "if you don't care about your window manager, we don't care about you". Except in 13000 words instead of 13.
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mtoddhover 12 years ago
Enlightenment has been around for quite a while now, and back in the day I used to think it looked so stunning. For a sense of perspective, here's what it used to look like back when it started as a hack of FVWM:<p><a href="http://www.cactii.net/~bb/linuxreal/grab.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.cactii.net/~bb/linuxreal/grab.jpg</a><p>Looks very dated now, but even in it's earliest days I thought looked so much cooler than FVWM. It's kind of amazing how far we've come in terms of visual aesthetics...
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sprashover 12 years ago
From a developer standpoint E17 is the best Desktop Environment you can dream of. Try to write a simple app with the Elementary toolkit and compare that with writing a Gnome app. You will immediately notice how much better E17 libraries are documented. With E17 it is fun again to write desktop apps.
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kleibaover 12 years ago
...and hell freezes over! :-)<p>Congratulations to the E17 team!
adambyrtekover 12 years ago
Ten years ago Enlightenment was pretty but not particularly usable. Now it's not even pretty anymore.
tbeover 12 years ago
So now we finally know why the maya calendar ends on 21 dec 2012 - they were waiting for the E17 release just like the rest of us!<p>End of the world speculations were just confusions with the phrase "when hell freezes over", which has also been used for E17.
j-kiddover 12 years ago
Just tried E17 for the first time. Kinda bummed that the control panel doesn't allow setting mouse acceleration threshold to 0. Also couldn't find a way to change keyboard repeat delay / rate.<p>Looks like more thought was put into eye candy than input dev.
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sliverstormover 12 years ago
Anyone have any idea if the tiling module supports arbitrary arrangement like i3wm, or is it stack-based like dwm?<p>Edit: Ok, the tarball is 30MB, no way I'm going to be able to use this. My curiosity is purely academic now.
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ishbitsover 12 years ago
Cool. E was my primary window manager from 1997-&#62;2001, at which point I switched to FVWM for about 10 years.<p>Not being too happy with current Gnome (its not that bad), I may give this a shot.
dizzystarover 12 years ago
I was looking and Enlightenment when I was considering a desktop for my Arch Linux install. I think this iteration looks quite a bit nicer, but I'm concerned about adding bloat to my system. After building it, I am pretty unwilling to add stuff unless I really need to. The system is also running on VM.<p>I'm currently running LXDE. What would Enlightenment offer me LXDE doesn't (aside from a nicer-looking interface)?
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syassamiover 12 years ago
Their website looks nicer than their DE. I've always found blackbox/fluxbox/xfce a nicer minimal fit
zephjcover 12 years ago
The diagram in the Building Blocks section of <a href="http://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about&#38;l=en" rel="nofollow">http://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about&#38;l=en</a> hurts my eyes. I had to zoom in to see if my eyes or the image was to blame.
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ramsesover 12 years ago
This is great news! I have been waiting for a very long time, and it is finally here.<p>A month ago I installed it in Fedora and Ubuntu, to get rid of Gnome3 and Unity ... and guess what? Linux is once again an amazing workstation—beautiful, fast, and flexible.
postfuturistover 12 years ago
Quick Ubuntu Guide (tested with 12.10, should work with 12.04):<p><pre><code> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:efl/trunk sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install e17 libedje-bin </code></pre> Log out, select Enlightenment from menu, log in, enjoy!
shelfover 12 years ago
The Duke Nukem Forever of window management, released at last.
rauarover 12 years ago
Kudos for bringing out a release after such a long time. Many projects don't make it this far.
rasurover 12 years ago
E17: Codename "Walthamstow"<p>&#60;joke&#62;<p>Congrats to the E17 team!
sparxover 12 years ago
their site is down now.