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Distraction free writing and the simplest blogging platform in one

100 pointsby akosover 12 years ago

27 comments

colmmaccover 12 years ago
I really like the design and look of throwww, and I don't mean to pick on it - but every time I see these minimalist low-friction writing engines, I feel like a very big thing is missing; facilitating editing, and encouraging a greater purpose for text.<p>Something I'm reminded of every time I reach the bottom of a pg essay, or every time I look back on the writing I'm most proud of, is that time was taken to consider and craft the text. Crucially, the text - and its ideas - was shared with others, feedback was gathered, and the text further refined.<p>Low-friction composition is important; it's a huge boost to have a simple clean slate with which to begin. But often once that initial effort is over with, good writing becomes a work of careful refinement. Here's some things I haven't found in any platform that would be great;<p>1. Full revision history. Every keystroke I've made, every tiny little edit should be saved. Everything. In order. Everything. This is a small data problem.<p>2. Once I create some text, I'd like to be able to share it privately with my trusted testers and feedbackers. They should be able to highlight text and make notes in-place. If I trust them enough - or they are an actual nominated human editor - they should be able to edit the text.<p>3. Some guidelines for good clear writing are automatable. An editor could tell me when a sentence is getting very long. An editor could detect obscure or imprecise words and suggest alternatives. An editor could detect repetition of mundane words or phrases. You get the idea ... the point is that real work can be done here.<p>4. It would be nice to be able to make margin notes, and to track goals. It is common to sketch out in advance the purpose or goals of a text; the outline and key points to be included. It'd be neat to be able to check them off as progress is made.<p>Or in summary; it'd be nice to see a tool that took as its goal that writing itself can be made more effective, rather than merely prettier.
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sfardover 12 years ago
Woah just happened to come across this! Thanks for sharing, akos.<p>I built (and am continuously working on) throwww. Let me know if you have any questions. Also here's kind of a mission statement of sorts <a href="http://throwww.com/a/1" rel="nofollow">http://throwww.com/a/1</a>
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avolcanoover 12 years ago
Pretty minor detail, but got me thinking. I like that the site has a Markdown video tag using the following form:<p><pre><code> |video|(http://youtube.com/watch?v=abc) </code></pre> Haven't seen that in any other Markdown implementations (always hate having to copy the embed code in for Tumblr's half-assed version of it). Is it new to Throwww or is it from another Markdown variation?
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benrhughesover 12 years ago
I really, really like the interface. I'd love to use it for my blog, but I'd want a self hosting version. I've been burnt too many times by hosted/proprietary writing platforms.<p>If you're not keen on self-hosting, I'd want: - the ability to export to an importable format (eg, wordpress's WXR). Exporting html/text is all well and good, but I need to be able to migrate - other stuff I'm sure you've thought about, like custom domains, custom URLs (eg /this-is-the-post-title) etc - discoverability of other users/"blogs" on the network<p>Nice work though. I really like it.
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ankit84over 12 years ago
Why would someone publish his writings when the website does not even publish Privacy Policy and Terms of Use?<p>* Who owns the content ?<p>* Are they going to keep there for lifetime?<p>* How would you make money and let us write? In future they can monetize on my content.<p>btw, let me admit, I created one for linkback <a href="http://throwww.com/a/41k" rel="nofollow">http://throwww.com/a/41k</a>
vjeuxover 12 years ago
Would be nice to randomize the url id so that you cannot see all the posts that have ever been written just by doing +1 on the number.<p>Also, I usually stick to Wordpress because you can embed code. Any plans to allow syntax highlighting?<p>Thanks!
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mediocregopherover 12 years ago
This is great! I've been thinking about writing down some of my experiences and thoughts lately, but didn't want to go with some full-blown blogging platform. I considered just having a github repo where I would just push up my *.md files, but this is even easier.<p>My only concern is my ability to get content back for archiving. Is there a way we could export the articles to some simple format? Either markdown or even just a plain text file?
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akosover 12 years ago
I shared my thoughts about some features I would love to see in the future: <a href="http://throwww.com/a/2r4" rel="nofollow">http://throwww.com/a/2r4</a> ;)
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temiriover 12 years ago
Wow, very handsome. I like it--I was just wondering what platform I could use to share thoughts that are a bit longer than a tweet but maybe don't merit a full blog post with all the bells and whistles.<p>My only gripe is that when I clicked on my profile it said, "This guy hasn't written anything yet." which was slightly off-putting as I am not actually a "guy."
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xSwagover 12 years ago
If you're interested in these new blogging services, check out Medium[1] which is built by the same guy who build Blogger, and Feathers[2] which is also in the "distraction free blogging" space. I like this trend of minimalism and clean layouts but I do not like the same idea being repeated over and over again without good execution (How do I view posts? Where is the post index? Where is the submit button? Where is the privacy policy and ToS? How will you attain user engagement with such an app? Who owns the content?). More importantly, what does your application offer that other applications in this space do not?<p>[1]<a href="http://medium.com/" rel="nofollow">http://medium.com/</a><p>[2]<a href="http://feathe.rs/" rel="nofollow">http://feathe.rs/</a>
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boomlindeover 12 years ago
Seems to me like a web browser is the last place you'd be able to pull off distraction-free anything.
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mrtbldover 12 years ago
I like it.<p>But I was a bit surprised to see a commenting system in it. This isn't what I expected after having read "Why I Made Throwww" [1]. A blog-like commenting system is not what I would associate with simplicity, nor "the purity of just a message".<p>Also, a little idea for easy improvement (IMHO): display the length of the text, i.e. the number of words and/or the time to read (e.g. based on a naive average of 250 words per minute [2]).<p><pre><code> [1] http://throwww.com/a/1 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_%28process%29#Reading_rate</code></pre>
laaczover 12 years ago
What I always check first for these tools, is support of partial unicode. And almost always I am faced with total ignorance of such. It's 21st century, guys.<p>Post: <a href="http://throwww.com/a/3nr" rel="nofollow">http://throwww.com/a/3nr</a><p>Screenshot (Chrome, win64): <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/laacz/8357406754/in/photostream/lightbox/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/laacz/8357406754/in/photostream...</a>
sfardover 12 years ago
Hey everyone, thanks for the feedback. Based on what I've been hearing lately, I wrote a small article about throwww's direction. <a href="http://throwww.com/a/45r" rel="nofollow">http://throwww.com/a/45r</a><p>Comment if you want anything you don't see. Not promising it'll get built, but it might be something I haven't considered.<p>Thanks again.
seanMeverettover 12 years ago
Looks great!<p>The problem with all blogging platforms though is that we always focus on making the writing experience better rather than making the audience experience better.<p>Give me this simplicity, plus a built in way for me to get eyeballs and I'm all yours!
cowsaysoinkover 12 years ago
Very cool, this could be what svbtle should have been.<p>If you implement the things like trending and subdomain user blogs (with things like domain hosting add-ons in the future) I could see it being a very useful blogging alternative.<p>Nice work.
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cheeaunover 12 years ago
Looks very clean. I wonder how do I upload images? Or is this only for pure text blogging?
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hartatorover 12 years ago
Pretty awesome, I love the simplicity.<p>Curiosity. What have you used technically?
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duckover 12 years ago
Very sweet interface and love the look. What is the market for these type of services though? Who uses them and why? I can't seem to think of a lot of use cases personally and hardly ever see anything linked from one.
zeynalovover 12 years ago
Add full-screen button for complete distraction-freeness. And there are some server errors, not sure why <a href="http://throwww.com/a/337" rel="nofollow">http://throwww.com/a/337</a>
nicholalexanderover 12 years ago
love the user page and writing experience.<p>quick thoughts:<p>formatting would be a distraction<p>include "media box" (music/img/url/vimeo)<p>would be nice to get lost inside of throwww following threads, authors, subjects... or else make twitter serve as the navigation through different "throwww's"<p>maybe instead of downloading the posts, they "evaporate" within... 2 days? temporality is cool and goes along with the name.
akhilrexover 12 years ago
I used this tool only to share my comments<p><a href="http://throwww.com/a/3h8" rel="nofollow">http://throwww.com/a/3h8</a>
pseingatlover 12 years ago
OK, I give up. I don't see any save button. I don't see any way to post. Lost one test file already.
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babyover 12 years ago
I don't like the textarea field, if I write too much it scrolls and hide what I previously wrote.
Diamonsover 12 years ago
Personally, I found the lack of an interface he most distracting part. It just didn't feel right.
pgschover 12 years ago
everyone can delete other people's posts? (in anonymous mode)
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drudru11over 12 years ago
yet another paper plane logo :-)