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Valve And Xi3 Team For ‘Piston’ Steam Box

119 pointsby galaktorover 12 years ago

18 comments

antimatter15over 12 years ago
This might not necessarily have bearing on their ability to create decent hardware for running Steam, but if I'm not mistaken ISYS Technologies (the company behind the Xi3 brand/architecture/model) started selling computers running beta versions of the Google's open source Chromium OS under the name "Chromium PC" and then sued Google for trademark infringement when Google launched the Chromebook.<p>I feel like that kind of behavior is probably worse than being a patent troll.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromebook#Trademark_dispute" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromebook#Trademark_dispute</a><p><a href="http://www.isys-tech.com/xi3-architecture.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.isys-tech.com/xi3-architecture.php</a>
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bniover 12 years ago
I really hope Valve succeeds in migrating the PC gaming community off of Windows and onto Linux (maybe Blizzard will help?). It will not be easy.
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Revisorover 12 years ago
It will be called Piston.<p>The demo unit of Piston features one ethernet port, 1/8" audio in/out, SPDIF optical audio, four USB 3.0 ports, four USB 2.0 ports (with one dedicated to keyboard input), four eSATAp ports, two Mini Display Port ports and one DisplayPort/HDMI port.<p>It will probably cost between $500 and $1000.<p><a href="http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/7/3849284/piston-valve-steam-box-xi3" rel="nofollow">http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/7/3849284/piston-valve-steam-b...</a><p>Edit: for those who haven't heard of Xi3 before like me, this promotional video shows what it's about:<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ox90oXq8c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ox90oXq8c</a>
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abrahamsenover 12 years ago
&#62; could provide access to thousands of gaming titles<p>Does this mean 1) the box will be based on Windows, 2) or there have been way more progress in getting publishers to port their games to Linux than what we have heard of yet, 3) or that "could" indicates that "thousands" is a meaningless hypothetical number?
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gebeover 12 years ago
I very much doubt that this is Valve's "official" steam box offering. This article is a bit more sensational than others' that have been posted on the subject today.
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baneover 12 years ago
I think we're about to be in for a whole new console wars, except this time, instead of pushing more bits, it'll be a battle between ecosystems. It won't be a console war, but an ecosystem war.<p>By and large, with the exception of a few exclusives, the 360 and the PS3 have more or less the same set of games. Both were incredibly advanced and were a logical progression of the course that these systems were going. But they both more or less have the same software ecosystem. Most of the library available on one is available on the other.<p>Yet the Wii outsold both of them, using far less advanced technology and offering far inferior on-line play. Many people credit the control scheme, but because of the controls (and an incredible first party development house) Nintendo offered a truly unique software ecosystem.<p>So this current generation we've <i>really</i> had two software ecosystems, the 360/PS3 one and the Wii one.<p>So today we have three new consoles about to hit the market in the upcoming months, Valve's, the Ouya, and Project Shield, right after the Wii U.<p>Valve is going to offer the PC gaming ecosystem and probably the strong on-line offering that PC gamers enjoy, the Ouya and Shield are offering Android (plus some exclusives on either side), and the Wii U will continue to offer Nintendo's ecosystem. This leaves Microsoft and Sony to respond, probably with announcements this year and releases before Christmas of next, with their next offering.<p>Back in the 16-bit days, the market showed that there can really only be two console players. Third place was a very distant third (PC Engine). But it's worth it to keep in mind that the Megadrive/Genesis and Super Famicom/SNES had wildly different software ecosystems as well.<p>In the generation following we had a plethora of platforms as well, and it rapidly shook down to 2 (with 3rd place so bad that Sega made one more go of it with the Dreamcast then exited the business entirely). Nobody remembers the CD-I, 3D0, Jaguar, CD32 from this generation.<p>Following that we had the PS2, XBOX, Gamecube and Dreamcast. It shook down to an unusual <i>3</i> this time, but the XBOX was artificial in this environment with Microsoft willing to lose tons of cash on the investment and if you look at the numbers they really just split 2nd place with the Gamecube.<p>Today instead of two major consoles, we have two major ecosystems. 360/PS3 and Nintendo (in transition to the WiiU)...and we're about to add 2 more to it. I don't think it'll work. Somebody's going to exit the market. It just can't sustain 4 (5 if you count iOS which is kind of stretch).<p>The Console business is <i>hard</i> and the public is fickle.
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jofo25over 12 years ago
I always wondered why there was this heterogeneity between consoles and PCs. You're playing the same games, why would it be good for anyone to have to develop/buy something twice or for one exclusively.<p>Hopefully the Steam Box destroys this distinction and makes a more consistent and flexible gaming landscape.
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primiturover 12 years ago
The days of walled-developer-gardens are over! The barrier to entry into the lucrative console markets are lower and lower with every day that passes .. as a developer who could never afford a PS3 or XBox dev license, I've been participating as much as I can in the open hardware arena (GP32, GP2X, Wiz, Caanoo, Open Pandora) as much as possible .. and now the dream is finally coming true!<p>I can't wait until the day these things start shipping - I for one welcome the opportunity to have as much diversity in this market as possible ..
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programminggeekover 12 years ago
FYI, a $500 PC that attaches to your TV is not going to sell well. It might be profitable and a good idea, but it's not going to stop console gaming from "winning". The magic price point is $199.<p>Something like the OUYA is more likely to hit the mainstream. $99 is a great price point. What people are discounting is that something like OUYA could get updated every 1-2 years unlike the 7ish year console lifecycle we are currently in. ARM keeps getting faster, it will certainly be "fast enough" soon...
nixarnover 12 years ago
Is this the final design? Am I the only one who thinks this looks extremely ugly? Hope it's not the final design, I'd love for it to succeed.
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galaktorover 12 years ago
More pics on polygon <a href="http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/7/3849284/piston-valve-steam-box-xi3" rel="nofollow">http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/7/3849284/piston-valve-steam-b...</a>
AndrewDuckerover 12 years ago
I'd like to know more about the OS and price.<p>At the moment it's just "There will be a small PC you can plug into your TV and play games on" and I can do that for myself. What advantage will this box have over that?
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andybakover 12 years ago
Anyone got any idea how technically challenging it would be for Valve to get Steam Linux running on ARM?<p>The idea of a possible future convergence between Linux and Android gaming intrigues me.
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daredevildaveover 12 years ago
Would it kill them to put a f-ing link to Xi3 in that article?
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cateyeover 12 years ago
Without matching input devices like gamepads the added value is limited. One of the best things of console gaming is the normalized gaming experience.
jiggy2011over 12 years ago
So the Steam box will basically be a standard PC in a cool box with Steam branding on it?
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zemanelover 12 years ago
i tried throwing money at the page but it didn't work. Browser issues? :-)
leocover 12 years ago
Content warning on dismembered human being in background image, kthx.
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