TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Posthumously pardon Aaron Swartz

307 pointsby jakewalkerover 12 years ago

11 comments

daekenover 12 years ago
No. No, no, no, no, no. I will miss Aaron more than I can say -- he was a great guy, an excellent developer, and one hell of an activist -- but a pardon does not do <i>anything</i> valuable. It doesn't bring him back, it doesn't make the world a better place, and most importantly, it doesn't <i>stop this shit from happening in the future</i>. We need to make sure that no one is ever in a position like this again, and make some serious changes. Being exonerated feels great when you're alive, but Aaron won't feel that now; let's follow in his footsteps and make this world a better place.
评论 #5049827 未加载
评论 #5049307 未加载
评论 #5049764 未加载
jeremysmythover 12 years ago
<i>President Obama has the power to issue a posthumous pardon of Mr. Swartz (even though he was never tried or convicted).</i><p>This kinda says it all. He <i>can't</i> be pardoned, having never been convicted. While there are many good and beneficial things that can be done, this one is impossible.
评论 #5048894 未加载
评论 #5048889 未加载
评论 #5049214 未加载
评论 #5049221 未加载
评论 #5048888 未加载
pasbesoinover 12 years ago
The Obama Administration is the one needing a pardon -- not Swartz.<p>They shouldn't be placed in the position of having the opportunity to "excuse" his activity.<p>Rather, they should have to explain their own.
kumarshantanuover 12 years ago
This petition seems more appropriate: <a href="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck" rel="nofollow">https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-stat...</a>
rdlover 12 years ago
How about if instead we have 11 January as "Aaron Swartz Freedom to Connect" day, or something like that, dedicated to free speech and free expression. Stuff Aaron would have done himself, even if the federal prosecution had never happened. Combined with a formal apology from President Obama and the AG, and removal of Ortiz and several other prosecutors within the Boston office.
josh_fyiover 12 years ago
He does not need a pardon. A pardon means that you did the crime, you are guilty -- also, it is usually conditional on your confession and statement of regret.<p>Martin Luther King never asked to be pardoned for his acts of civil disobedience.<p>The truth to be trumpeted is that he is "guilty" -- Aaron violated some very minor rules, and that we should admire him for that.
rmcover 12 years ago
Be very careful. One doesn't want to send a signal to people contemplating suicide that everything will go away if they complete suicide.
评论 #5049036 未加载
ck2over 12 years ago
Obama should rather pardon Bradley Manning before something else is done to him in military prison.<p>We sadly cannot do anything for Aaron now.
gueloover 12 years ago
Obama is not friendly to our point of view. He has been an enemy of free information. He goes after whistle blowers with full force. He has threatened reporters with espionage. He wants Bradley Manning to die in jail.
评论 #5051439 未加载
rprasadover 12 years ago
Zero percent change of happening: <i>you cannot pardon someone who was not adjudicated guilty of a crime (by conviction or by a guilty plea).</i><p>Aaron died before his case was finally adjudicated (i.e, until all appeals were exhausted), so like the Enron guy, in the eyes of the law, he is not and never can be guilty of the crimes he was charged with.<p>Again, for emphasis: you cannot pardon someone without a conviction.
评论 #5050017 未加载
评论 #5049483 未加载
评论 #5050170 未加载
maeon3over 12 years ago
Many people don't realize that programmers are far more sensitive than the average person. We ran away from people, and escaped into the wonderful world of computing because everything synchronizes, there is harmony and greatness in mathematics. And when we deal with the slightest form of human offence, it's as if the other person is our own mind, telling us that we are a burden to society, and it is our time to be killed, as simply as the body tells cells out-of-place to die.<p>Programmers need to disconnect and not let the external environment become part of us. Sometimes I let other people's minds become part of my mind. I think it's a profound glimpse into how programmers can use our motor neurons to actually "be" a compiler in software, and to anticipate how it works.<p>Unconsciously we do the same things with other humans, and there are ways that humans can take over that process and their disapproval of us is like our own mind finding disapproval for a system inside it that must be destroyed. With the proper scenarios, make programmers suicidal, when they can utter the proper dark magic incantation, we do a cost benefit analysis and decide that suicide does remove the defective systems. rm -rf /<p>I think the takeaway here is that some of the best programmers tend to have serious problems separating the directives of self from the directives of others. You have to learn that we are not computers, and the good of the many is not always preferable to the good of the few.
评论 #5049644 未加载
评论 #5049718 未加载
评论 #5049820 未加载