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Ask HN: does bitcoin mining pay off?

11 pointsby agranigover 12 years ago
I'm curious whether there are people who do (semi-)professional bitcoin mining, for example with hardware like https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison, and whether this really pays off?<p>In the worst case, the costs for powering these devices is higher than the value of bitcoins mined, plus there is the risk of dropping exchange rates.<p>If it is somewhat profitable though, then I'm wondering why not more people are doing it, as it seems easy enough? If more people did it, would there be a risk of cannibalizing each others efforts? It might sound like naive questions as I don't know much about the mechanisms of bitcoins.

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chancedover 12 years ago
The reason more people don't do it is because:<p>A) it's difficult. Since the vast majority of miners didn't get in early, they weren't able to get in on the "gold rush" that enabled them to ramp up hardware in accordance with their output. When mining first started, you could find blocks with a decent CPU. Since then, dedicated rigs have become almost a necessity if you plan to make any kind of money at all.<p>B) Electrical efficiency. Since the recent decrease (reduction from 50 bitcoin per block down to 25 per block) and the rise in popularity of bitcoin (thus rise in difficulty of finding a block.. it scales naturally), the "cost" of finding blocks has gone up. By that I mean it requires more raw computational power to mine, raising the bar on both the hardware needed to be relevant AND the amount of electricity consumed during the process.<p>There are a lot of calculators out there. They will give you some insight into how much you could make (or very likely lose) depending on your local electricity pricing.
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steven_hover 12 years ago
It will pay off, but it's more a long term investment and you should an opportunity cost analysis on the cost of hardware and expected returns.<p>Use this to calculate your profit. <a href="http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/</a><p>Disclaimer: I mined bitcoins at the start and cashed out during the last bubble at ~$30USD per coin. I sold the hardware I had (ATI 58xx series graphics card mining rigs). The new ASIC hardware looks too great if you could gt your hands on it.<p>Remember though that you are at a disadvantage to more established miners who can afford these $X0,000 mining rigs that increase the total pool speed which brings down your contributions and your profit.
gesmanover 12 years ago
If you can run your mining rig somewhere where you don't pay for electricity (like under your employer's desk :) ) - then you'll get some benefits. Otherwise electric bill will eat your profits.<p>I think it's a bullshit business where opportunity is guaranteed to decline.<p>Let others mine and I'll develop products and sell them for bitcoins (and dollars).
cfaulkinghamover 12 years ago
I have been looking into it. From what I can tell the only way it would be profitable is with a custom ASIC. Something like <a href="http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/" rel="nofollow">http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/</a>
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redeggover 12 years ago
I've been mining since July 2011 with a small operation of 17 ATI 5830s.<p>With the amount of ASIC preorders currently speculated, I don't think its worth my time to upgrade. I'll be selling my mining hardware off this year.
undrcvrover 12 years ago
Don't forget that according to the (non existant) spec there's a finite number of btc. So even if it was profitable (which i doubt), it's guaranteed to stop being viable when every block has been mined.
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