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Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

107 pointsby nischalshettyover 12 years ago
Facebook Graph search allows you to search everyone who uses this app. Be it your friends, people who aren't your friends, just about anyone.<p>Example criteria:<p>"Single women I am not friends with who use BangWithFriends"<p>"My friends who use BangWithFriends"

24 comments

bluetideproover 12 years ago
This is an interesting find. I don't necessarily care about "BangWithFriends", but I am curious if you still show up on those searches if you set the privacy to "Only me" when you signup in any app. Does that hide you from searches on the Open Graph (in respect to app usage)?<p>I ask this because I frequently signup with Facebook on some apps, and purposely put it to "Only me" privacy, to keep my activity hidden from my Facebook friends. I would hope that doing so, would keep me out of those types of Open Graph searches. Can anyone confirm/deny this (<i>I don't have Open Graph Search, yet</i>)?
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colkassadover 12 years ago
Ask HN: What is BangWithFriends?<p>Edit: a Facebook app that where you can click on friends you want to sleep with. If they have the app, they are notified. I would think this would be more cool if both of you are only notified if you both signify that you want to sleep with each other. This could also be toned down to just signify romantic interest to get more engagement.
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gozmikeover 12 years ago
This may also work, and won't require graph search:<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/browse/friends_using_app/?app_id=178205172320915" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/browse/friends_using_app/?app_id=17...</a><p>Replace the app_id with the id of any facebook app you want to use.
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king_jesterover 12 years ago
&#62; "Single women I am not friends with who use BangWithFriends"<p>If I understand the current user base of BangWithFriends, this will return no results.
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ovoxoover 12 years ago
Interesting. Here's another problem I just discovered:<p>"Men who live in Toronto, Ontario and who use BangWithFriends" - 65<p>"Females who live in Toronto, Ontario and who use BangWithFriends" - 6
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daviduover 12 years ago
That's not the real problem with BangWithFriends.<p>That's just a symptom or side-effect of the real problem.<p>As the idiom goes, if you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.
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knesover 12 years ago
For people who don't have access to Graph searches yet. Just do a BangWithFriends search in app and you will see something like "xxx, xxx, and xx Other friends are using this app." under the app description. It will return the same list at the Graph search.
guruzover 12 years ago
I don't see the problem here.<p>You can't find out who wants to bang who, right?<p>You only can find out that people want to bang. Which is true since the big bang 13.8 billion years ago. (well, humans evolved later, i know)
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tgrassover 12 years ago
"My friends who have searched 'My friends who use BangWithFriends'"
speikover 12 years ago
I have graph search. Tried this, got four results, all male.<p>So yes, this seems to be true.
vy8vWJlcoover 12 years ago
Those crazy kids with their crazy ideas about how to love each other. Good for them.<p>I can imagine Version 2.0 being even more general (a craigslist of discreet hypothetical matching) for more than just sexual arrangements. But continuing the sexual theme, obviously the next logical step is N-way group hookups.<p>It occurs to me that something similar could also be implemented in a distributed manner (for use offline or with decentralized P2P networks, etc...) using asymmetric encryption and split keys.
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nischalshettyover 12 years ago
This app is interesting however, users are signing up for this with the idea that no one among their friends get to know about it. Unfortunately, facebook enthusiastically shows everyone using various apps.<p>Not sure if facebook has a privacy setting to prevent others from knowing the apps I use but if they do then the developers of this app should inform this to their users.<p>If facebook does not have a way for me to hide from my friends the apps I use then IMO, facebook should have this option.
awwstn2over 12 years ago
And then there's this search, which returns lots of results: <a href="http://f.cl.ly/items/1D3u380L3z3R2E0v101H/Married%20people%20who%20use%20BangWithFriends.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://f.cl.ly/items/1D3u380L3z3R2E0v101H/Married%20people%2...</a>
tomasienover 12 years ago
No one I'm friends with is using it! That's so disappointing.
kremdelaover 12 years ago
Great find. I had a similar issue with a dumb app I built a long time ago that was more of a learning experiment / sick joke than anything real.<p>It was called Rubbed Out and the point was to list all of your friends you had thought about while masterbating.<p>With bad permissions, or a small sample size, it gets really scary.
gaileesover 12 years ago
The problem with BangWithFriends is that there are no females on there that are down to bang. Every person I've ever seen login has a multitude of male friends "using this app" and little to no female friends using it.<p>This kind of app is completely fucked from the start bc of the gender disparity.
bongsover 12 years ago
I agree, it is not anonymous.<p>We created a version that is more suitable for Facebook - for people looking for serious relationships instead of casual encounters.<p><a href="http://www.PairBuddy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.PairBuddy.com</a><p>We have got some good support in our beta launch.
CrazyGeeover 12 years ago
I have just tried to join <a href="http://www.BangFriends.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.BangFriends.com</a> but it says i will receive an email shortly because they are still in BETA mode. Maybe they are adding the default privacy option so people cant monitor you on facebook via Open Graph?
pablosanchezover 12 years ago
This was exactly the same problem when AirTime tried to use the Chat Roulette concept to create an app "to meet new people on your social graph".<p>Using FB connect killed all the fun in that. You can tell by the disclaimer they're now using on their landing page.
gizmo686over 12 years ago
I wonder what it would take to implement BangWithFriends with cryptographicly assured privacy.<p>When I have the chance, I'll break open my crypto book and see if this problem is less impossible to solve than it seems.
jgvover 12 years ago
lol yea thats the only problem with this app..
jnxfgf455over 12 years ago
Disgusting.
largesseover 12 years ago
Obviously, the answer is to have everyone sign up for BangWithFriends. Then anonymity is assured.
youssefsarhanover 12 years ago
Also, <a href="http://blog.sefsar.com/post/42926069438/bangwithfriends-is-not-anonymous-at-all-the-one" rel="nofollow">http://blog.sefsar.com/post/42926069438/bangwithfriends-is-n...</a>