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Comet might hit Mars in 2014

115 pointsby wsierociabout 12 years ago

18 comments

btillyabout 12 years ago
Wow. What are the odds?<p>Just doing quick ratios and squaring them, if the comet follows the initial projections, there are only about 230 large objects coming this close for every one that actually lands on Mars. (And Earth gets hit with about 3.5 of these for every one that hits Mars. Our last is estimated to be 65,957,000 +- 11,000 years ago.) This is literally a once in a million years near miss!<p>Of course the odds now are much higher than they normally would be. The fact that it is on a hyperbolic orbit means that it comes from outside of the Solar System. The density of such objects is much higher near the galactic plane than elsewhere. However the Sun bobs up and down, spending most of its time away from the galactic plane and crossing it every 30 million years or so. We last crossed it something like 100,000 years ago and are now heading away, so are still in a period where interstellar objects are more likely to come barreling through. So the odds are higher than they normally are, but even if you generously account for the currently increased risk, this is still a once in a civilization near miss.<p>Of course the initial estimate may be wrong. From the article the uncertainty is much bigger than the distance to Mars. If the uncertainty is the stated 650,000 miles, then we've got roughly a 1/24,000 chance of a direct impact. (I am sure that more informed people will come up with much better estimates in the not too distant future.)
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davidjohnstoneabout 12 years ago
50km is massive.<p>Earth's largest crater[1] is 300km across, and that's thought to have been created by an asteroid 5-10km in diameter. The 180km Chicxulub crater[2] (this impact is generally believed to be largely responsible for the extinction of dinosaurs) was around 10km in diameter.<p>I'm kind of hoping this turns out to be something. I thought the Russian meteor the other week was a most amazing natural event, and something far bigger than that would be incredible (not to mention safe for humanity in this case).<p>EDIT: 50km is actually the upper estimated limit of the size of this comet. Wikipedia[3] says 8-50km. It's still huge.<p>1: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vredefort_crater" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vredefort_crater</a> 2: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_Crater" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_Crater</a> 3: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2013_A1" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2013_A1</a>
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alexandrosabout 12 years ago
Witnessing such an event could help get humanity serious about existential risk, from comets or otherwise. I, for one, am hoping for an impact.
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tocommentabout 12 years ago
I got to thinking. Is there any chance we could nudge this to impact the Hellas Planitia on Mars. It's the lowest point of Mars and therefore already has a higher atmospheric density (.01 ATM). So if we could double the depth and potentially add more water, it would really get us closer to a great location for a colony.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellas_Planitia" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellas_Planitia</a>
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uvdivabout 12 years ago
This is hyperbole. (no pun)<p><i>"Comet C/2013 A1 may fly past at a very safe distance of 0.008 AU (650,000 miles)," O'Neill wrote, "but to the other extreme, its orbital pass could put Mars directly in its path.</i>
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blaze33about 12 years ago
There is a more recent post from Leonid Elenin with updated data: <a href="http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/c2013-a1-siding-spring/" rel="nofollow">http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/c2013-a1-siding-spring/</a><p>"the comet might pass just 41,000 km [...] from the planet’s centre [...] 100% certainty that the planet will pass through the gaseous envelope of the comet [...] will be subject to intensive bombardments by microparticles which, among other things, might cause malfunction of the space probes currently there."
kingkawnabout 12 years ago
Setting off a volcanic eruption, instantly oxygenating mars, saving Arnold Schwarzenegger
jonsenabout 12 years ago
50 kilometers ... hmm ... how big must a stray celestial body bee to severely disturb the longterm stability of the solar system?
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erreabout 12 years ago
The obvious question: will Curiosity see it? If so, it should be able to get some AMAZING footage!
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mtgxabout 12 years ago
Wouldn't this be helping us terraform Mars faster? I think a lot of CO2 is trapped in ice on Mars, and we'd need that to make (presumably genetically enhanced) plants live there. A body that large hitting Mars could help raise its temperature.
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Achsharabout 12 years ago
If it does infact hit, will there be enough time b/w impact and shock wave for curiosity to upload a high def video of the asteroid entreating the atmosphere to a satellite if it is in it's vicinity?
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tocommentabout 12 years ago
Can anyone calculate how much this impact might heat up Mars? (I've heard even a little heating might set off a chain reaction and substantially increase the temperature?)
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manaskarekarabout 12 years ago
Is there any info on how this would affect the rovers?
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Thrymrabout 12 years ago
A direct hit doesn't seem to be all that probable, but Mars is still likely to pass within the comet's coma and be pelted by debris [1].<p>[1] <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/02/28/mars_impact_the_red_planet_may_get_hit_by_a_comet_in_october_2014.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/02/28/mars_imp...</a>
pixl97about 12 years ago
I would think that an impact of mars by this body would delay any further plans of visiting mars for a while. The level of atmospheric dust would be... tremendous. I wonder if 'backsplash' of rocks and other material would pose a threat to the mars orbiters?
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meatyabout 12 years ago
Hm. Interesting to observe, but will this throw a lot more crap into space that we then have to worry about in a few decades?<p>I assume it'll knacker any landers we have there as well through either seismic activity or dust penetration.
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SODanielabout 12 years ago
Read the title as 'Comet might hit in March 2014' followed by '50 km' and almost choked to death on my morning Espresso.
mtgxabout 12 years ago
Watch this recent episode of Colbert, and his interview with Michio Kaku, where they talk about the recent asteroids, and also about the much larger one "grazing" Earth's atmosphere in 2029, and that "may" hit Earth in 2036 (depending on how much it grazes Earth's atmosphere in 2029). It starts at 15:30 or so:<p><a href="http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episodes/tue-february-26-2013-dr--michio-kaku" rel="nofollow">http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episodes/tue-february-26-2...</a>
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