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Ask HN: Building an app to make real-world conversations searchable. Want it?

45 pointsby willwhitneyabout 12 years ago
We’re working on Retrospect (http://goretro.co), an app that sits in the background and intelligently records location and audio from your day-to-day interaction with the world. It lets you access your real-world conversations just like you might search your email. Look for things like “conversations with Sarah at Starbucks” or “Baseball games I’ve gone to with my Dad”, then play back the recorded moment.<p>We’re launching sign-ups for our free beta starting today if you’d like to try it out.<p>What do you think? Would you use something like this?

22 comments

kylloabout 12 years ago
It sounds like you are using speech-to-text and NLP algorithms to make audio recordings keyword searchable.<p>Frankly, the consumer use cases for this are creepy. If this were a thing, and my friend or family member were recording all our conversations, I would ask them to turn it off or leave.<p>But I think you should market this to law enforcement, law firms, and possibly business executives. It would be very useful in these spaces to have searchable audio transcripts of court hearings, testimonies, depositions, interrogations, confessions, as well as board meetings, keynote presentations, etc. Maybe also useful for journalists and academic researchers who do a lot of recorded interviews.<p>If your speech-to-text performance is really good, it could also replace stenography in closed-captioning. (Yeah that's still how closed captioning works for live TV--someone listens and pecks away at a stenotype.)<p>Basically, sell it any place where a stenographer is currently employed, or where people currently use audio recorders. Don't try to get people to record audio of their entire lives for sentimental value, though, that isn't a realistic use case. Most people's lives are mundane and we know it. We don't need a searchable, chronological index of every time we curse or fart.
kintamanimattabout 12 years ago
Want it? With extreme emphasis: <i>oh hell no!</i><p>I'm so annoyed by this project. Imagine the kind of chilling effect this would have on daily interactions if you knew everything you said was being recorded. It has a chilling effect even if it's <i>you</i> that's recording your own interactions! If I found out someone was surreptitiously recording my casual conversations I'd just never talk to them again, except to chew them out for doing such a shitty thing. Also, if someone asked me whether it's ok to hit record in a social setting, I'd look at them sideways and not only decline, but would instantly stop trusting them and cut them out of my life as a consequence.<p>I rarely want people to fail, but I really, really want this privacy-busting, surveillance project to fail miserably. We're surveilled enough as it is without intelligent people contributing to these garbage projects.<p>Ted, Will, and George: work on something that benefits humanity rather than chills the frankness of interpersonal interactions. The potential consequences of this project are awful.
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EFruitabout 12 years ago
I'd use it. If it weren't hosted. And if it was Open Source. Otherwise, I just can't bring myself to trust it.<p>The concept is a goldmine. You need to convince potential users of its security an privacy protection, should there be any. If there isn't any, your product is a ticking time bomb.
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Idiotequeabout 12 years ago
Amazing idea, now imagine this with Google Glass. It would be just like in the third episode of Black Mirror.
3chelonabout 12 years ago
I was thinking about this a few years back, when I was working on firmware for pre-smart-phones. Probably something to do with getting old and forgetful :)<p>The trouble with audio - as everyone has pointed out - is the privacy and storage issues. What I would be interested in is some way of producing a condensed "markup" of your day, easily searchable using a voice assistant. It would record the basic facts but not the verbatim conversations.<p>When I first thought of this in any depth it was still unfeasible, but now I think much of it is already there. Still, a big project. Maybe smaller, niche versions for particular tasks would have to come first?
kohanzabout 12 years ago
Very interesting idea!<p>However, while you do address the privacy of the user themselves, what about the privacy of the other unwitting participants who are having their conversations being recorded and stored without their consent?
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scrapcodeabout 12 years ago
How do you expect to tackle the amount of battery power this puppy will drain?
seanccoxabout 12 years ago
Sounds compelling, though in Turkey (where I live) recording someone without their consent is a criminal offense. To legally use the app, I would need to open every conversation with a request for their consent to be recorded, and even then I could be prosecuted if the material was made available to a third party without the person's permission. Journalists here run into this problem all the time, so I don't think this is a very good market for trying this.
bosieabout 12 years ago
Would love the idea/app/service but I am not sure what exactly your app does. Would it be able to extract enough information from hundreds of business meetings to actually pinpoint not just meetings but also just segments of meetings? =&#62; I don't wanna listen to a 60 minute meeting but really only listen to 2 minutes where we discussed feature XYZ
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keiferskiabout 12 years ago
Cool. Keep in mind that it's illegal to record people without their permission in many states. (Pennsylvania, for example.)
alexvrabout 12 years ago
I actually think it would be cool, at first, but I would be painfully quiet if I knew everyone used it. It's the kind of thing that would be neat to try for just a day. Once lots of people use it, there would be a nice little market for Retrospect-jamming hardware.
jblokabout 12 years ago
Interesting idea, but it requires quite a major lifestyle change for the user. It is the type of service that takes time for people to adjust to. I wouldn't be surprised if it took you (or a competitor) a couple of years to get a decent amount of regular users.
ereckersabout 12 years ago
I'm not sure I'd get a lot of utility out of 10,000 hours of "butt calls". Maybe if there was some memory that I was looking to rekindle by listening to it, but I'm not sure if the actual audio would ever beat my "memory" of it.
mtndesabout 12 years ago
It is not legal or ethical, I think. No one should have my conversation in their phone or something, even though s/he is my closest friend or my parent. So, I think I wouldn't use it, but not sure about others.
nickfromseattleabout 12 years ago
How have you solved the technical challenges associated with background noise found in real world conversations and recording a high enough signal:noise ratio to index the audio and make it searchable?
davidkatzabout 12 years ago
Recording people without their knowledge is unethical, and letting people know they're being recorded all the time is also not feasible, so, I wouldn't use this. Good luck.
larry7about 12 years ago
Might be a good one, say you are on vacation, and would like to be able to relive the experience at a later point.
willwhitneyabout 12 years ago
Clickable link: <a href="http://goretro.co/" rel="nofollow">http://goretro.co/</a>
roma1nabout 12 years ago
Sorts of reminds me of the Livescribe pen (see their 'pencast' tools).
tempi35about 12 years ago
Sounds interesting (pun intended..)
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Mzabout 12 years ago
Most conversations are far worse than any written communication about umming and repeating things, etc. To me, this sounds like just so much baggage, assuming that every conversation is significant. I am also reminded of some quotes or lines about words getting in the way of communication. I think that problem is bad enough in the world without BigBrothering our lives.<p>Having said that, I do think there are some potential niche uses for this. In addition to law enforcement and court, it makes me think of the South American tribe that used video recordings of meetings with whites to hold them to their word. They did not read and write English but they found a means to avoid the fate of so many indigent peoples who have been lied to, taken advantage of, and screwed over by people from more "advanced" cultures.
duiker101about 12 years ago
sounds quite invasive...