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The Unexpected Uselessness of Philosophy, The Unexpected Usefulness of Mathematics

10 pointsby phony_identityover 17 years ago

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kclover 17 years ago
Article title makes it looks promising but actual content fails to deliver.<p>Better to read 'The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences': <a href="http://euler.slu.edu/~srivastava/wigner.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://euler.slu.edu/~srivastava/wigner.pdf</a>
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rktsover 17 years ago
Awesome. A lot of people revile Steve Sailer, but I think he's one of the best essayists writing today.<p>This quote in particular elegantly sums up the history of philosophy:<p>"To this day, most philosophers suffer from Plato's disease: the assumption that reality fundamentally consists of abstract essences best described by words or geometry. (In truth, reality is largely a probabilistic affair best described by statistics.)"<p>It's not so much the world that's probabilistic, though, as the human mind and the thoughts and abstractions we impose on the world. Hume was the first philosopher to explicitly argue that the mind works this way, and modern research has supported him.<p>I think that, as Sailer briefly suggests, there is value in studying the works of skeptical philosophers like Hume: it gives you the tools to see through the kind of bullshit that philosophy is full of. Because you don't just see it in philosophy. It's there whenever people argue about politics or religion, and whenever a dreamy computer scientist rambles about "objects" and "types" and whatnot. It's useful to able to refute these arguments by recognizing their meaninglessness.
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ytersover 17 years ago
Before Plato and Heraclitus, Greeks thought reality was essentially chaotic and impossible to understand. You can see this in their creation myths. Heraclitus originated the idea of the Logos, a pattern underlying everything, and Plato built on this.<p>Articles like Steve's happen when people don't know their history of philosophy or science.
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jrainesover 17 years ago
This news.yc meme sucks.
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