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24 year old Ogilvy China employee dies from 'overwork'

84 pointsby jentulmanabout 12 years ago

12 comments

kayooneabout 12 years ago
Sudden cardiac arrest can, in theory, happen to anyone at anytime, its just that its an extremely rare occurrence.<p>Most of those cases can be traced back to a previously unknown heart disease though. In general, the probability of you dieing in an accident on your way to/from work is alot higher.<p>The fact that i read about 3 cases of sudden cardiac arrest in very young and seemingly healthy people on HN in a rather short period is a bit discomforting though.
patio11about 12 years ago
For anyone who thinks death from overwork merits scare quotes: I really, really can't recommend becoming a salaryman, but it would change your mind.
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akamakaabout 12 years ago
“Hard work never killed a man. Men die of boredom, psychological conflict, and disease. They do not die of hard work.”<p>-David Ogilvy (from <i>Confessions of an Advertising Man</i>, 1963)
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ig1about 12 years ago
There's plenty of people (in every competitive industry from startups to consulting) who work until 11pm everyday without having heart attacks, presumably there were other factors at play here.
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denzil_correaabout 12 years ago
It seems over work a serious problem in China. 600,000 Chinese workers die from overwork annually. That's quite huge.<p><a href="http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=1103&#38;id=20121029000069" rel="nofollow">http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=110...</a>
venusabout 12 years ago
This is so common in Japan they have a word for it. Which came in useful for naming our group at a previous company: "Team Karoshi".
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mellotronabout 12 years ago
Any statistics on US deaths like this? I couldn't seem to find anything particularly useful.<p>I just mean to say that China is an enormous country, and statistically these things are bound to happen. Does anyone else perceive this type of media coverage as part of a greater strategy of propagandizing or is the oversturation of news outlets just hungry for enything sensationalist to grab eyeballs? Both?
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lefstathiouabout 12 years ago
I am a bit surprised this happened. While working until 11PM every day is mentally frustrating, I am curious as to the physical toll it actually takes on your body. Said differently, is there a difference between being awake until 11PM every night and being at the office? I've watched analysts and associates in investment banking keep up this schedule for years at a time...<p>Now, if you told me he was getting in at 9 and leaving at 5 every day for 6 weeks, this would make sense and I can see how this would be problematic for Ogilvy. With what we have in this article, I think he suffered from a heart condition.
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iamjason89about 12 years ago
Kira! Where are you L. We need you now!
maeon3about 12 years ago
I think the key to solving the root of the problem here is understanding that there is such a thing as: "Cooperative compliance disorder", which is the other end of the spectrum of "Oppositional defiant disorder".<p>So the question becomes: How did this person get to believe that when the desires of other men are of higher priority than your own physical health.<p>Like cell in your own hand, it did not object when the mind decide to send the hand through the fire, he gave his life so that the whole might complete its objective. Cooperative Compliance disorder.
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michaelochurchabout 12 years ago
When things like this happen, names, pictures, and home addresses of responsible managers should be posted on the Internet so that the good fight can start.
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Tornabout 12 years ago
Why is this in hacker news?
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