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Google drops XMPP support

90 pointsby john_w_t_babout 12 years ago

7 comments

patrickaljordabout 12 years ago
Google still support XMPP, it's just that it's not federated (edit: according to 0x006A, it still is so they may just be blocking Microsoft). It's been federated for years though but what was the effect of that? Has Microsoft made MSN messenger interoperable, have they done so with Skype? Have Yahoo? How about Facebook?<p>Thing is, as Larry said, they support open messaging but why should they do so with companies that don't reciprocate? Last week, Microsoft decided to take advantage of gtalk federated XMPP to make it usable inside Outlook, this is awesome. However, did they make skype usable inside of gmail? No. So Microsoft is happy to use google's messaging federated openness but refuses to share their messaging with Google which gives Microsoft an unfair advantage. As Larry said, they support openness but not to the point of shooting themselves in the foot by giving Microsoft a commercial advantage by integrating gtalk in Outlook while there's no way for Google to do so with Microsoft's Skype.<p>I think this is pretty fair from Google to defend themselves. And it really takes nerves from Microsoft for complaining about someone blocking them on their messaging network when they have been the king of blocking messaging network with MSN and Skype. Come on.
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josteinkabout 12 years ago
The irony of this coming from Microsoft, a company which has never had a single mainstream XMPP-based product and owner of Skype, which has sent Cease and Desist letters to people creating Skype-XMPP bridges, is not lost on me.<p>That said, if Google keeps locking down all their former open products/platforms, I <i>will</i> be fleeing ship.<p>If Hangouts (which replaces Gtalk) drops XMPP support, I see no reason to keep using it.
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gnowayabout 12 years ago
This kind of looks like a fight Google was never going to win. They either continue doing what they were doing and allow MS to take competitive advantage of their openness, or they shut the door and MS wins again because Google is suddenly evil.<p>Maybe I am misunderstanding what happened here, but right now this looks like a perfect example of "see, this is why we can't have nice things," played out in the real world.
Nuxabout 12 years ago
Jump ship, guys! SMTP is next!
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xor-ed-wolfalmost 12 years ago
One more proof that any good organization becomes money-hungry zombie when reaches certain size.
jkhanlarabout 12 years ago
"Avaya and many others will also loose interoperability" as opposed to tighten interoperability.
blablabla123about 12 years ago
So Google is becoming the new Microsoft and vice versa...