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Don't Look for Talent, Find People Who Do Things

109 pointsby fksalmost 12 years ago

14 comments

MaxScheiberalmost 12 years ago
I find this particularly tingling because Tucker himself is a perfect example of doing things. He gets a lot of flak from people calling him a poor writer and lambasting him for writing about some of the "finer" topics in life. Yet, he is a New York Times bestselling author, and his detractors are not.
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chrisbennetalmost 12 years ago
The other day I saw a &quot;looking for technical partner&quot; ad in craigslist by someone who listed &quot;I&#x27;m creative&quot; as one of the assets they would be bringing to the partnership.<p>It made me think about the word &quot;creative&quot;. I thought to myself, if I was considering teaming up with this person I would asked them:<p>&quot;What have you created?&quot;
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nordsieckalmost 12 years ago
I wonder how that compares to these results:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bobsutton.typepad.com&#x2F;my_weblog&#x2F;2009&#x2F;10&#x2F;selecting-talent-the-upshot-from-85-years-of-research.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bobsutton.typepad.com&#x2F;my_weblog&#x2F;2009&#x2F;10&#x2F;selecting-tal...</a><p>My gut reaction is that there is sample restriction going on: that there is a minimum intelligence create a large volume of coherent software. Additionally, there are a number of practices that are illegal in the US (not sure about other countries) like structured interviews, so the list of things that companies can use is somewhat limited.
farnsworthalmost 12 years ago
I can&#x27;t work on projects outside of work because I work ~12 hours a day, 6-7 days a week and there&#x27;s no way I can free up the long periods of time needed to create something good. I can&#x27;t talk up my technical accomplishments in an interview because my job isn&#x27;t particularly technically demanding or interesting, beyond the company name. I think I&#x27;m a good interviewer except when it comes to talking about anything I&#x27;ve actually worked on after college (1 year ago). Any tips on how to get past this?
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the_economistalmost 12 years ago
I like to ask people about what they do in their private life. What are their hobbies. Do they have a lot going on? People who keep themselves busy tend to have a strong motor and usually apply that to their work life as well. Similarly, people don&#x27;t do much of anything outside of work can bring this habit into the workplace.
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rzaalmost 12 years ago
&quot;Dogshit developers get paid 50k to start. Good ones are over 100k. You just have to have actual skills.&quot;<p>Because how much someone makes determines if they&#x27;re dogshit or not.
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coldcodealmost 12 years ago
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;thecodist.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;interviews_can_be_a_terrible_way_to_identify_good_programmers" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;thecodist.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;interviews_can_be_a_terrible_wa...</a>
_greim_almost 12 years ago
&gt; Don&#x27;t look for talent<p>Isn&#x27;t talent the ability to do things well? Or maybe I lack a nuanced definition of &quot;talent&quot;. Or maybe the headline is trying to be sensational.
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mililanialmost 12 years ago
This is the kind of post I wish there was a downvote for on HN.
TheMagicHorseyalmost 12 years ago
I honestly don&#x27;t know why this blog post is so highly rated on HN. He is just recapping what other people have been saying in news articles and blog posts.
bjhoops1almost 12 years ago
I read this whole post before realizing it was written by that prick, Tucker Max. I wish I could unread it.
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cyploalmost 12 years ago
shameless autopromotion, a.k.a. my viewpoint: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.cyplo.net&#x2F;2011&#x2F;07&#x2F;24&#x2F;how-to-hire-people&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.cyplo.net&#x2F;2011&#x2F;07&#x2F;24&#x2F;how-to-hire-people&#x2F;</a>
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jleyankalmost 12 years ago
Joel said this well a while back: Smart and gets things done.
escaped_hnalmost 12 years ago
&quot;Creative&quot;. No.<p>&quot;Creative and willing to invest financially&quot;. Yes.