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Why the IRS is Targeting Open Source Software Groups

164 pointsby talboitoalmost 12 years ago

7 comments

a_palmost 12 years ago
The real scandal here happened in 1959. When Congress passed created 501(c)(4)s, the law said that (emphasis is mine): &quot;Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated <i>exclusively</i> for the promotion of social welfare&quot;.<p>In other words, 501(c)(4)s were intended to be allowed to spend NO MONEY on politics. However, a 1959 IRS regulation decided that &quot;exclusively&quot; (0%) really meant &quot;primarily&quot;(up to 49%), and in doing so they completely changed the spirit of law, which was not only illegal, but made the new law a nightmare difficult to enforce. Every single 501(c)(4) that has spent money on politics since 1959 has been in violation of the law passed by Congress — which means that the real law is almost guaranteed not to be enforced.<p><a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/17/the-real-irs-scandal/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.reuters.com&#x2F;great-debate&#x2F;2013&#x2F;06&#x2F;17&#x2F;the-real-ir...</a>
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mehmehshoealmost 12 years ago
Here is a redacted form just stating that:<p>&quot;Open Source Software<p>These organizations are requesting either 501(c)(3) or 501(c)(6) exemption in order to collaboratively develop new software. The members of these organizations are usually the for-profit business or for-profit support technicians of the software.<p>There is no specific guidance at this point. If you see a case, elevate it to your manager.&quot; <a href="http://democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/files/November%202010%20BOLO%20IRS0000001349-IRS0000001364.pdf#page=13" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;democrats.ways...</a>
ryanisinallofusalmost 12 years ago
If huge corporations are hiding parts of their operations under a 501c status it SHOULD be looked into. Don&#x27;t fall into the trap that Tea Party members fell into. This is not a scandal. Don&#x27;t cry about it.<p>No big deal.
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TallGuyShortalmost 12 years ago
Neither this nor the original post seem to link to any additional information about which FOSS groups have been hit by this. Does anyone know?
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jboothalmost 12 years ago
I wonder if this was an intended consequence of cutting IRS funding or whether those doing the cutting literally didn&#x27;t think about it beyond &quot;fuck&#x27;em!&quot;.<p>And now I&#x27;m wondering which scenario is more dissapointing.
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mabhatteralmost 12 years ago
Take something as simple as Mozilla. Most of their work revolves around publishing the Firefox browser, they collect donations from Google for using Google&#x27;s home page. After that it gets murky because there is another for-profit Mozilla in the background that makes its own deals for things like the Firefox Phone OS where &quot;Free Spftware&quot; isn&#x27;t allowed. The IRS starts caring who gets what cut of those Goohle &quot;donations&quot;? Who owns the offices, pays the wages, and who owns the IP? It gets extra murky when an Open Source project get SOLD and more money starts changing hands... Suddenly a &quot;non-profit&quot; gets its assets sold for millions of dollars... The IRS wants its TAX moment cause they got to feed Uncle Sam.<p>I think the problem they have are 2 college kid companies that start as &quot;open source&quot; while they build something (and its true they eat Ramen the whole time) only to sell that for millions later. The ITS doesn&#x27;t like giving away tax money if they don&#x27;t have to.. Especially when they could have been collecting it all along ... Big companies know this and I&#x27;m sure &quot;help&quot; the IRS know which kids to go after.
LaSombraalmost 12 years ago
Which is interesting since they use open source software.
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