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Every Entrepreneur Should Try Magic Mushrooms

116 pointsby emreasalmost 12 years ago

28 comments

gnosisalmost 12 years ago
This sounds like the author took a low to moderate dose of mushrooms. It&#x27;s possible to have much more profound experiences (both positive and negative) than what was described in this article.<p>I can recommend a book called <i>&quot;The Varieties of Psychedelic Experience&quot;</i> for a more comprehensive look at some of the possibilities. Also, see the trip reports on erowid.org.<p>Psychedelics may be best for people who are naturally inquisitive, like seeing things from novel perspectives and walking in other people&#x27;s shoes, are comfortable with encountering material from their subconscious, and who enjoy questioning themselves and the world around them.<p>People who are very set in their ways and who think they&#x27;ve got the world figured out might be in for a rude awakening when their certainty is pulled out from under their feet. Then again, maybe that&#x27;s just what some of them need.<p>It&#x27;s great that the author thoroughly educated himself about the effects of the drugs he was about to try, and planned his day. The world would be much better off if more people did that.<p>I was also very pleased to see that he tried to use his time constructively while tripping. Way too many people&#x27;s sole aim in taking drugs to &quot;party&quot; or &quot;get fucked up&quot;. That&#x27;s a complete and utter waste of the potential of these enormously powerful substances, and borders on abuse, IMO.<p>The main thing I was disappointed with was that he didn&#x27;t have an experienced and trusted trip guide or a sitter with him. That&#x27;s very important, especially for inexperienced users. Fortunately, his decision to walk around the city by himself turned out fine. But it might not have. When tripping, you don&#x27;t always make the wisest choices. An experienced sitter can help keep you safe.<p>There&#x27;s a really great book called <i>&quot;The Secret Chief Revealed&quot;</i> about a therapist who guided hundreds of trips for his clients. One of the more interesting techniques that he used during his sessions was to ask his clients to bring a stack of personally significant photographs with them (in particular, photos of family members and loved ones). Looking at these after the peak of the trip could be incredibly helpful. That may be something to think about for your next trip.
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Guillaumeishalmost 12 years ago
Yes, I totally agree.<p>Every person should try magic mushrooms and&#x2F;or LSD. Any psychedelic drug. The problem is that not all people can afford to do so (and I don&#x27;t mean financially afford it, I mean psychologically), not everyone is ready to experience certain feelings.<p>There is a right time to do it, and most of the people (especially the grown up ones) totally need a guide to do it. Someone who knows the stuff you&#x27;re trying and know how to guide you out of any possible bad trip happening. I&#x27;m convinced that these &quot;altered state of perception&quot; should be experienced by the highest number of people.<p>Take a look at: &quot;DMT: The spirit molecule&quot;. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FaDMak-TQ" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=c4FaDMak-TQ</a>
NhanHalmost 12 years ago
As a young 20-ish who&#x27;ve never partaken in any kind of drugs. Does anyone have a NEGATIVE story to share? Not the type of &quot;he got addicted and ruined his life&quot; but &quot;hallucinations after all are just hallucinations, and the profound effects are fake etc.&quot;
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whiddershinsalmost 12 years ago
OP is ~23 at the time and that seems like a very natural age for that experiment.<p>One of the most interesting things about reading Robert Anton Wilson&#x27;s more autobiographical stuff (Cosmic Trigger? Prometheus Rising?) is that when he talks about doing LSD for the first time with Leary and co, all these guys were in their 30s!! I can&#x27;t imagine how shocking it would be to have gotten that far in your life, believing and committing to the perceptions you&#x27;ve had, only to have them ripped apart by those megadoses (by today&#x27;s standards) of LSD.<p>I think that is also why they made such good use of the experiences. Having more life experience, they might have been even more appreciative of the new insight.<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Prometheus-Rising-Robert-Anton-Wilson/dp/1561840564" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Prometheus-Rising-Robert-Anton-Wilson&#x2F;...</a>
eipalmost 12 years ago
PLAYBOY: Ever take LSD? GATES: My errant youth ended a long time ago. PLAYBOY: What does that mean? GATES: That means there were things I did under the age of 25 that I ended up not doing subsequently. PLAYBOY: One LSD story involved you staring at a table and thinking the corner was going to plunge into your eye. GATES: [Smiles] PLAYBOY: Ah, a glimmer of recognition. GATES: That was on the other side of that boundary. The young mind can deal with certain kinds of gooping around that I don&#x27;t think at this age I could. I don&#x27;t think you&#x27;re as capable of handling lack of sleep or whatever challenges you throw at your body as you get older. However, I never missed a day of work.<p>--------------------------------------------------<p>LSD was a big deal for Steve Jobs. How big? Evidently, Jobs believed that experimenting with LSD in the 1960s was &quot;one of the two or three most important things he had done in his life.&quot; What&#x27;s more, he felt that there were parts of him that the people he knew and worked with could not understand, simply because they hadn&#x27;t had a go at psychedelics.<p>------------------------------------------------------<p>When Kevin Herbert has a particularly intractable programming problem, or finds himself pondering a big career decision, he deploys a powerful mind expanding tool -- LSD-25.<p>&quot;It must be changing something about the internal communication in my brain. Whatever my inner process is that lets me solve problems, it works differently, or maybe different parts of my brain are used, &quot; said Herbert, 42, an early employee of Cisco Systems who says he solved his toughest technical problems while tripping to drum solos by the Grateful Dead -- who were among the many artists inspired by LSD.<p>&quot;When I&#x27;m on LSD and hearing something that&#x27;s pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I&#x27;ve stopped thinking and started knowing,&quot; said Herbert who intervened to ban drug testing of technologists at Cisco Systems.
anigbrowlalmost 12 years ago
<i>Every Entrepreneur Should Try Magic Mushrooms<p>The title is slightly misleading as I actually believe that every person should... and here&#x27;s my story why.</i><p>Liked your essay, but I think you should go ahead and change your title. Psychedelics can make you a better entrepreneur, or a better artist, or (insert role here), but in the sense that becoming a more rounded, experienced and thoughtful <i>person</i> will enhance your professional activities. Your specific profession is orthogonal to your scope for personal development.<p><i>Nobody</i> should take mushrooms with the goal of enjoying more business success - a compartmentalized approach as implicitly (albeit unintentionally) suggested by your title is likely to be counter-productive when the walls of one&#x27;s mental compartments start leaking. I knew a fellow who stared at a glass of orange juice during a trip with such intensity that he felt he had become one with it.* He got very upset when someone else picked it up and drank the juice.<p>* in the sense that Van Gogh once painted a vase of sunflowers with such intensity that he became one with it. <i>What</i> your mind chooses to focus its attention on is not a question of value.
mindcrimealmost 12 years ago
While I have smoked weed 3 or 4 times in my life, and drink like a fish on occasion, put me down on the list of people who have never tried psychedelics, but have considered it many times.<p>This post really makes me want to go out and get some &#x27;shrooms (or LSD) and give it a try. I think I&#x27;m going to put that on my &quot;do real soon now&quot; list... I mean, I&#x27;m getting older, so it&#x27;s time to stop procrastinating and DO stuff instead of just dreaming about it. :-(
idointernetalmost 12 years ago
I agree 100% with this post. I did shrooms 1x in Mexico with the most amazing weather, right on the ocean. It changed how I viewed things. It pointed out my social anxieties in that they weren&#x27;t present. I consider it one of the turning points in my life.
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salimmadjdalmost 12 years ago
I went to a school with many friends who experienced with hallucinogens regularly. But they always followed these rules:<p>1 - don&#x27;t look at a the mirror<p>2 - cars are for real<p>3 - you can&#x27;t fly
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dbboltonalmost 12 years ago
I really take issue with this title and the general attitude it stems from.<p>Advising everyone in a certain group of people to take any kind of drug should be frowned upon in my opinion. The fact that we are talking about a Schedule I substance, and the fact that author then admits he thinks <i>everyone</i> should try them, make this situation even worse.<p>I guess if you happen to get caught with them you&#x27;ll have plenty of free time (five or more years) to fine-tune your startup idea in a federal prison.<p>A much better title would have been &quot;one entrepreneur&#x27;s positive experience with magic mushrooms&quot;. I&#x27;m not saying that nobody should do drugs or that psychedelics can&#x27;t benefit people, but telling everyone to use a drug because <i>you</i> had a good outcome with it is downright juvenile.
julesalmost 12 years ago
So were the notes worth anything? What I always wonder about these types of experiences is whether the drug really does give you great insights, or it just tricks you into the feeling that you&#x27;re having great insights.
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jotmalmost 12 years ago
Heh, I also say everyone should be allowed to take amphetamines (i.e. make them completely legal). But that ain&#x27;t gonna happen when the idiots at the FDA label even Piracetam as a schedule drug.
stickhandlealmost 12 years ago
I&#x27;m prone to absolute fits of laughter as opposed to anything resembling focus. Might have something to do with quantity. Or what happened before (pot) or after (lots of beer -- mushrooms made me very thirsty). Anyway ... not the same experience, but fun nonetheless. The key is a happy environ. One tip -- instead of tea, eat them with chocolate ice cream.
dobbsbobalmost 12 years ago
You can get really sick from shrooms if you&#x27;re allergic&#x2F;take too much or the person you bought them off doesn&#x27;t know what they&#x27;re doing and is selling you bunk&#x2F;poison shrooms. Small amount of LSD will acheive the same thing, plus no sickness :P
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ChrisNorstromalmost 12 years ago
DO NOT WALK AROUND OUTSIDE while on LSD! That&#x27;s dangerous and disrespectful to everyone else.<p>I don&#x27;t know if there&#x27;s a Acid uprising in St. Louis but there have been an increase in incidences of young men tripping while out in public. One of them scared the hell out of my mom, then stripped naked and ran around yelling &quot;I love LSD&quot; while the police ran after him. The other almost got hit as he walked in and out of traffic. I get they want to experiment but the combination of being a male (doing risky stupid shit) and being young (thinking you&#x27;re invincible) can have deadly consequences.<p>Please trip at home. Edit: OR at your friend&#x27;s house who lives on a nice open flat farm.
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dullyalmost 12 years ago
Now if I could just find some..
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praksteralmost 12 years ago
Do your two friends agree with you 100%?
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Aloisiusalmost 12 years ago
Before people run out and do this, anyone know of any negative side effects?<p>I&#x27;m a bit prone to anxiety and my only experience with a drug everyone said was harmless (prescription pot) was terrifying.
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hamsternipplesalmost 12 years ago
if you have done mushrooms (or are considering it), and are a programmer, I really highly recommend this video by terence mckenna. it&#x27;s called &quot;Shamans among the machines.&quot; :D<p>he explores the next big step of evolution for humanity will probably be coming from, &quot;programmers on shrooms&quot; :D<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx6P6Nq8JoY" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Gx6P6Nq8JoY</a>
danbmil99almost 12 years ago
TL; DR: I took &#x27;shrooms and listened to Enya
kephraalmost 12 years ago
I&#x27;ve collected Spitzkeglige Kahlköpfe (Psilocybe semilanceata) for several years, and send more then 100 people on a trip. So some advise from an old hippy, in random order:<p>Its easy to confuse Psilocybe semilanceata with Düngerling (Panaeolus papilionaceus), that is growing on same meadows, but at different times. Its less dangerous to collect magic mushrooms, then to collect mushrooms for food, because most mushrooms mimic a poisonous one. If you collect magic mushrooms and pick the wrong one, then you don&#x27;t have a trip, but if you collect mushrooms for food, and pick the wrong one you become ill, and might even die. But still, always collect them with someone who knows them well, because else you might pick non magic light poison mushrooms first, think you need high dose to feel something, and next time you take a much to high dose, if you got the right ones.<p>Do not eat them when tired in the evening, but better at the morning before eating anything else. Do not drink or take other drugs same time. I prefer to put them into a yogurt or quark. Drink a tea afterwards, wait 10 minutes after eating them, and then eat as much as you can, because you need the power, and likely are not able to eat anything while on trip.<p>Always take them in a small group of friends you really trust, and one of the group should stay sober, just for the case one goes crazy. Agree beforehand that you care for each other, and that you do not send anybody into a hospital, because insane asylums makes everything worse. They will put people on hard drugs, so those people become asylum addicted. Be prepared that someone might need help after a trip. Those who went crazy will become sane within a week, if you care for them at a good place, e.g. a cottage in the rural, but they might become asylum addicted for decades, if they can get no other help then those who exploit them for health insurance money.<p>Be prepared to go outside. Walking miles is very common on a mushroom trip. The one who is sober must ensure that the group stays together and nobody gets lost. Being alone on a trip is a very bad setting. Do not walk through the city, but through nature, and avoid places where big crowds of people are, e.g. dance clubs or festivals. The sober guy is also the mule for water, and should ensure that everybody is drinking enough.<p>Mushrooms do not cause addiction, but they are an anti-drug. Everybody I know who collected mushrooms in my age stopped it at some time, including me. But never try to blow up your trip forever. Never add more mushrooms to am existing trip, neither because of impatience nor because you want to continue the &quot;fun&quot;. The only cases I know of people who got locked in (drug induced psychosis) on a trip are those who eat several times within a few days, and those who went to an insane asylum, where the trip is treated with other even more dangerous drugs.<p>The main trip will be 4-6 hours, followed by an activity phase of an other 6-8 hours, followed by a vibrant phase of several days, where memories of the trip come up very vivid, and feelings are very different. The complete trip takes a week most often. So never take them more then once a month. And never more then 3 times a year. Mushrooms are not a party drug, they are a sharp tool to reshape your mind. Be prepared that memories of your trip will burn deep into your mind. A trip is a lesson you will never forget. So do not take them, if you have bad feelings, in a bad group, in a bad set or setting.<p>Magic mushrooms are called magic for a good reason. You might encounter things that can not be explained by science. Those magic comes often together with a horror trip. e.g. my worst horror trip was when I was walking through a part of the city where lots of drug and drunk people party, and a few of them had green faces. Each of them stuck me with a horror. And the horror became even worse over the next half year, as each of them died on an overdose of heroin.
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MWilalmost 12 years ago
If you are the author: ctrl + F for &quot;I put up a serious of large whiteboards&quot;
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parasightalmost 12 years ago
Mushrooms can cause bad trips. Keep that in mind. It might not be as frequent as with other substances, but it is possible. I know people who had bad trips from mushrooms. So be careful. A really bad trip can be nightmare.
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sbarrealmost 12 years ago
Someone just watched a Bill Hicks documentary..
northwestalmost 12 years ago
I regret there&#x27;s no call-to-action at the bottom of your post:<p>Buy here :-)
rogerthisalmost 12 years ago
Stay away from my kids, guys.
kumarskialmost 12 years ago
whoa.....this one had me reading a few times.
gazrogersalmost 12 years ago
Stabbing yourself in the eye with a fork can change how you view the world too. Maybe we should recommend that everyone does that?
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