If anyone's interested, I wrote up a little guide on how to prepare yourself for B3 - <a href="http://blog.jetstrap.com/2013/07/bootstrap-3-how-to-prepare-yourself/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.jetstrap.com/2013/07/bootstrap-3-how-to-prepare-...</a>
The actual reason that all the styles are "flat" right now? One of the main project authors removed them temporarily while he focuses on fixing other issues in the current pull request for Bootstrap 3.<p><pre><code> mdo commented: Gradients and other embellishments have
temporarily been removed while I focus on other things.
It has nothing to do with skeuomorphism or anything
like that.
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Stop reading the tea leaves, people. Source: <a href="https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/6342#issuecomment-12332378" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/6342#issuecomment-123...</a>
> Bootstrap 3<p>It's a release candidate. The first of at least two.<p>If you want discussion, check out <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6112141" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6112141</a> (disclaimer: my submission).<p>@mdo jumped in for a bit of commentary, too.
Man, I feel weird. I used BS2 temporarily, but then stripped it out for a straight reset and grid system. Old habits die hard, I guess, and what I Want from a UI doesn't always match Bootstraps ideas... I'll give this another shot for my startup prototype, but I have a feeling the same will happen.<p>Is anyone else like that, or am I now old-school at the ripe age of 22?
I don't think I get the new grid system.<p><pre><code> <div class="col-12 col-sm-8 col-lg-8">.col-12 .col-lg-8</div>
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What's going on here? If I were to guess, I'm assuming it's going to be 12 columns if its a mobile, 8 if a tablet or a desktop.<p>In what situation would that be useful? It looks like you'd end up with some pretty complicated mark-up quickly like that.
Meh, at some point they should start to realise that you can't change everything every release and expect everyone to keep up. It feels like it's becoming more of a chore than the real initial win it was able to deliver on first release.
Is there actually a changelog somewhere or will that be written up with the full official release? I can't see anything detailing what's changed<p>Also, it's a damn shame they're still using pixels for everything (from a cursory glance). Fluid grids (i.e. %-based) and ems (for font-size and media queries) are much better. They are infinitely more flexible and much more easily adaptable to any layout.
This looks like the changelog: <a href="https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/6342" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/6342</a>
While simple, I believe Panel and Listgroup are new components; nice to have those nicely implemented and styled in the framework. Will be handy for me. In many ways I think Bootstrap helps the most with the little things like this. I am very appreciative of this terrific framework being made available for us to use.
It's interesting to see that the references to twitter are basically gone now, presumably this means we'll see more things from `Bootstrap` in future, perhaps a company since it already has a lot of mind-share.
Bug report:<p><pre><code> - open on iPad in landscape
- navigate to a long doc page
- scroll halfway down
- rotate to portrait
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Expected: content scaled to fit<p>Actual: content zooms way in, document scrolls several pages<p><pre><code> - rotate back to landscape
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Expected: content returns to previous view<p>Actual: content zooms even further
wtf is wrong with the button ... srsly.
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Personally, I think the "Download Bootstrap" button is too ambiguous. Why is the default color the same as the background color, it is just confusing and ugly
It's really unfortunate to see all the haterade being spilled over the comments. The efforts to take Bootstrap to version 3 were pretty significant, at the minimum they deserve a pat on the back for that alone.<p>Here are some important concepts I think a good portion of people are missing.<p><i>Upgrading</i> - Don't upgrade for the sake of upgrading. If you have a fully functional site right now which uses or extends a previous version of Bootstrap your incentive to upgrade at this point is probably minimal.<p>At some point you had conceded that version X of Bootstrap was the right front end framework for your project. If that has changed you need now concede you have some work ahead of you.<p>Identify and evaluate the features introduced in Bootstrap 3 that are lacking from your current project. Scope out the markup and stylesheet refactoring required for any of the "must haves" and setup a schedule to integrate. Realize that this doesn't necessarily mean you are bringing Bootstrap 3 into your project, more so you may just be adapting your existing front end assets to model Bootstrap 3 features/patterns.<p>This is really no different than an existing site that doesn't use Bootstrap now wanting to bring the framework into their project. If you've identified that you need Bootstrap 3 for your project, you would expect there is work to be put in.<p><i>Usage</i> - I see a number of comments critiquing design and usability. Is Bootstrap really intended to solve those problems for you?<p>In my opinion this is a framework intended to bootstrap your front end assets and development efforts. It prescribes conventions for common component markup and their respective selector naming conventions.<p>Think about that for a moment how valuable that is to your project (especially those with a large number of contributing developers). How many projects previous to one using Bootstrap did you have such well documented markup, style and naming conventions?<p>Bootstrap standardizes and documents front end patterns for rapid adoption and implementation into your project. That's pretty damn special. If what they promote doesn't align with your needs or development practices, well, don't use it.<p><i>Style</i> - Bootstrap wasn't designed for your site, your users or even to keep up with the latest design trends. The styling, while in the view of many is decent, seems to have been intentionally minimalistic and not overly opinionated.<p>It provides basic structure and basic styling. It's your starting point. You can get to your destination now a bit quicker without needing to reset their style rules.<p>Having such minimalistic styles probably serves to be good motivation to get creative. If you want custom and don't have the design ability to get there, rest assured there will be a companion stylesheets to extend bootstrap coming soon to at a market place near you.<p><i>Inspire</i> - If the Bootstrap shoe fits, wear it. If Foundation, Pure or any other front end framework fits the need, use it.<p>To me the great benefit of all these popular frameworks is they bring to light many well thought out development approaches to the front end. Not everyone will agree with them. They aren't always bullet proof. Though at the end of they day though they invoke developers to take a look at their individual assets and recognize areas of improvement.<p>Find the framework or approach that best aligns with your needs and personal preference and customize the hell out of it.
Other than the grid, it looks like all the classes and markup are the same.<p>I wish the examples used more semantically meaningful html5 elements where appropriate, but that's not too big of a deal.