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US must tell defendants when spying is used to build case against them

77 pointsby bbrunneralmost 12 years ago

3 comments

dmixalmost 12 years ago
I&#x27;ll keep repeating this on HN:<p>NSA is a symptom. Secret courts (and &quot;state secret&quot; legal defenses) are the disease.<p>Limiting NSA through policy or defunding won&#x27;t do anything. They&#x27;ll circumvent it and it will continue to happen in secrecy somewhere else.<p>The only solution to stopping mass surveillance is allowing the ability for the state surveillance to be challenged in court. Secret panels of judges are insufficient means to having judicial checks on state power. The only way this can happen is if &#x27;state secret&#x27; laws are revised and FISA courts stop issuing warrants in secret.
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revelationalmost 12 years ago
I don&#x27;t understand, the first basic rule of intelligence services is you can&#x27;t use any of their information in court. It&#x27;s the basic premise behind giving them unlimited privileges.
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coldcodealmost 12 years ago
You&#x27;d think they realized that at some point sanity and law would prevail and secret trials and evidence had no place under the Constitution.