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The Door To The FISA Court Doesn't Even Have A Sign On It

273 pointsby luigialmost 12 years ago

10 comments

jasonkolbalmost 12 years ago
When I was doing real estate investing I ran into a kangaroo &quot;court&quot; that the local corrupt city set up to handle property code violations. They would have a cop set up at the front and an appointed &quot;judge&quot; (they had some other name for him to not offend the law too mightily) who wore robes and asked everyone to stand up and sit down. The person in the robes would arbitrarily make up fines for the offenses according to their whims and moods. I know because there was a $4500 &quot;judgement&quot; on one of the houses I bought for having a driveway that needed to be repaired.<p>Anyway, it turns out that this &quot;court&quot; is a complete fabrication that the city put up as a way to put up the appearance of being fair. But cities are corporations, they aren&#x27;t allowed to establish courts like this, and it was a complete sham. That&#x27;s why you have to have a real judge hear traffic cases.<p>This is a sham traffic court too. This is not part of the judicial branch of government any more than the &quot;property code violations court&quot; presided over by a clown in black robes. There&#x27;s a reason we have a separation of powers. A paid employee wielding a rubber stamp is not justice.
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dlinderalmost 12 years ago
Is anyone collecting a list of the surreal, absurd, or kafkaesque events surrounding post-9&#x2F;11 national security?<p>This episode reminds me of the red warning light from ksm&#x27;s gitmo trial that would sometimes light up and cut the gallery feeds on its own: <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/01/secrecy-around-ksm-guantanamo-hearings.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newyorker.com&#x2F;online&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;comment&#x2F;2013&#x2F;01&#x2F;secrec...</a>
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speederalmost 12 years ago
Kinda off-topic:<p>Why cameras are banned on courtrooms? I remember the last US trial news all of them had sketches like this instead of photos and videos...<p>EDIT about the argument below about google: I always search Google first, but I found lots of random answers, and I don&#x27;t have enough domain knowledge to know what one (or ones) are correct or resemble how things really are, asking here usually spark people to post very interesting information, that sometimes are obscure even, and hard to find on Google.<p>Instead of telling people to use Google, why not wonder: If the person CAN have that information, and is asking anyway, what the person wants to know, that is not easy to find on Google?
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generjalmost 12 years ago
I want to thank the author for the excellent sketches. If I was forbidden photography equipment, my sketches would be rectangles, which, if squinted at, might construe a door.<p>Joking aside, it is obviously very concerning that FISA is completely unaccountable to the public. The lack of a sign is just another symptom of the abuse of secrecy.
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DannyBeealmost 12 years ago
Not to ruin the central point of this article, but i&#x27;d say 50% of the courts i&#x27;ve been in don&#x27;t have obvious signs on the doors.<p>They just tell you you are in room 302 for this or that, or whatever (this is true even in appeals courts where they aren&#x27;t really shifting around courtrooms all the time. The main courtroom will just be some numbered nameless room).<p>The only usually obvious signs are the names on judges chambers, and in a lot of cases, they aren&#x27;t even in the same building!
ferdoalmost 12 years ago
No sign on the door indicates that they know they should be ashamed even though shame doesn&#x27;t appear to be one of their guiding lights.<p>edit: great little piece, btw. I&#x27;ll pass it around.
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gcb0almost 12 years ago
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tbrownawalmost 12 years ago
The lack of a sign is not the problem. Given that hand scanner by the door, having a sign would be a bit silly -- anyone who would actually <i>need</i> the sign can&#x27;t get in regardless. Given that (almost?) everything they do apparently involves classified information, the hand scanner makes sense.<p>What is a problem, is not having anyone to answer the phones and not having the building receptionist know what to tell people.
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aspensmonsteralmost 12 years ago
&gt;...the employees in the first floor District Clerk&#x27;s office (gently) laughed at my attempts to find anything about the Court. They referred to it as the &quot;Room of Requirement&quot;, and said they had no idea what floor it was even on.<p>In a maelstrom of political chaos, it&#x27;s nice to see at least a bit of humor every now and then. It seems Life Imitates Art. This pleases the Potter fan in me.
fleitzalmost 12 years ago
The only person to be tried at this court was Citizen K.