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One Month Rails (YC S13) Teaches How To Build Your Startup While Learning To Code

107 pointsby mattangriffelalmost 12 years ago

26 comments

patio11almost 12 years ago
There&#x27;s going to be a lot more teaching-programming-as-a-product startups because the user base is proven, the economics are compelling, and the underlying story is that &quot;Anyone who successfully figures out a scalable process to turn people into programmers wins the 21st century.&quot;<p>Incidentally, as long as I&#x27;m up:<p><a href="https://onemonthrails.com/try" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;onemonthrails.com&#x2F;try</a><p>A little birdy says that &quot;Submit&quot; is the worst possible copy you could use for that button, unless you&#x27;re running an S&amp;M site. Try [Get A FREE 7-day Video Crash Course] rather than &quot;Sign Up For...&quot; and [Send Me My Videos].<p>(As always: do it in an A&#x2F;B test if you don&#x27;t believe me. This one is generally <i>cough</i> fairly compelling.)
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typicalruntalmost 12 years ago
With these types of companies popping up, I&#x27;m left wondering how carpenters feel when someone watches a few episodes of HGTV and decides they can build their own house. There is so much more to programming and building a product than simply typing some magical symbols into an editor. Sure, it&#x27;s a start, but once a product is built, deployed to production, and then has customers, it will need constant nurturing. Databases get slow, hardware fails, logs fill up diskspace, and yet that&#x27;s only the tip of the iceberg in programming. Stating you can learn to code in one month is nothing more than the &#x27;Teach Yourself $LANG in 24 Hours&quot; from yesteryear. It minimizes the amount of skill and experience one needs to be a programmer and make $120,000 per year (which is still a lot of money).<p>OneMonthRails is a start, especially if you want to learn how to program, but I find it unethical to insinuate that one can land a $120k&#x2F;yr job after 1 month of training.<p>For all my fellow Canadian compatriots, I read the marketing page of OneMonthRails and see visions of Tom Vu [1] trying to tell us about his guaranteed technique to becoming rich (later found out as the greater fool theory).<p>[1] <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQNdi-fRExc" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=iQNdi-fRExc</a><p>[2] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Greater_fool_theory</a>
alaskamilleralmost 12 years ago
Reinvention of the For Dummies series.<p>One of those dev bootcamps sales pitch was the average coder makes $83,000.<p>This one is pushing the ante to $120k.<p>Do you know why developers get paid on average $120,000 or more at some of the world&#x27;s fastest growing companies?<p>It&#x27;s because of various contributing factors. But for $49 you can buy the dream.
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knesalmost 12 years ago
I&#x27;m more and more disappointed in Startups that comes out of YC these days.<p>What&#x27;s the different with peepcode, net tuts+, codeschool and co? What is the bigger picture here? Is this just a guy who was running a successful Skillshare course and decided to spin a company out of it and through his personality got into YC? Why even go through YC if he already had 5000+ student on skillshare?<p>Something I&#x27;m not seeing here?
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rrousealmost 12 years ago
Being a developer that works with Rails daily, the first thing that jumped out at me was the code on the screen in the landing page image.<p>Rails hasn&#x27;t used named_scope in a long time :)<p>I also found this bit to be just wrong<p>&quot;I&#x27;m not even joking when I say this, but I think some of the resources out there make it intentionally hard for non-technical people to start learning. Maybe they want to keep this stuff a secret.&quot;<p>I don&#x27;t believe for a second this exists. It&#x27;s actually kind of offensive.
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dspecsalmost 12 years ago
I took the class a few months ago so I thought I would offer my unvarnished opinion of One Month Rails.<p>I&#x27;ve always loved technology but never had any coding skills whatsoever. To be honest, I didn&#x27;t know where to begin. I would run a few searches and play around with a hello world tutorial and pretty much drop it from there.<p>Then I found this awesome speech by a guy named Mattan Griffel. He was speaking at an NYU event (pretty sure) and discussing how he learned to code in one month. I was blown away. It was like I was lost in the jungle blindfolded and someone handed me a map and a light. I finally had a way that all of this was accessible.<p>Griffel used a combination of a Lynda course, a Stanford course and Hartl&#x27;s Rails tutorial to teach himself but in the meantime he had put together this course to learn Rails in a month.<p>Disclaimer: I didn&#x27;t learn Rails in a month. I completed the course but I still can&#x27;t build the next Facebook&#x2F;Twitter&#x2F;Linkedin&#x2F;Pinterest on my own if it didn&#x27;t have the exact same features that Griffel&#x27;s tutorial had.<p>Here&#x27;s what it did do for me. For a person coming from a completely non-technical background, I had a roadmap. Terms, technologies, languages, databases are all things that are obvious to any CS&#x2F;EE major but totally baffling to an outsider. Griffel&#x27;s tutorial brought me into the coding world. Eventually, I was so blown away by what I learned that I wanted to do this as a profession which led me to the Flatiron School and I hope to pursue a new career as a web developer.<p>The One Month Rails course gave me the confidence to see that it really isn&#x27;t all that difficult to learn this stuff. Time, dedication and perseverance are your friends. If you&#x27;re completely new to programming, want to know the lay of the land, and have no idea what Ruby, Rails, Git, Heroku and jQuery is, this course is exactly what you need.<p>Mattan, thank you.
TORIG-TGalmost 12 years ago
Took his class on Skillshare.<p>It was not a good first encounter with Ruby or Rails, but a decent class once you have some background experience.<p>The class moves too fast, and he needs to practice his presentation skills (he types something out in a video, and switches screens immediately). Also, the material was not entirely up to date with the gems.<p>That being said, I really enjoyed the class and would take more in a similar fashion.
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petercooperalmost 12 years ago
As someone heavily into the Ruby world (and particularly the news side of it) this has certainly seemed to come out of nowhere for me, though to be fair.. existing Rubyists are not really the target audience :-) How did it grow to reach 9000 students?<p><i>As it stands now, the YC-backed startup has over 9,000 paying student customers, with a month of tutorials costing $49.95.</i><p>I&#x27;m guessing earlier signups got preferential pricing, but there&#x27;s still a potential for $100k+ per month revenues there.. that&#x27;s pretty striking! :)
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raganwaldalmost 12 years ago
As a business, this makes perfect sense to me. San Francisco is the city that taught the world you make more money selling pickaxes and denim than from digging for gold.
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bdcravensalmost 12 years ago
Submit without an email address, and you get this error:<p>&quot;The email parameter should include an email, euid, or leid key&quot;<p>Wow, for something targeting those who aren&#x27;t yet coders, that&#x27;s a scary error message. (I&#x27;ve been dev&#x27;ing professionally since 1998, and I&#x27;m taken aback)
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zinssmeisteralmost 12 years ago
I see this &quot;guy with macbook air and coffee&quot; picture on a few landing pages lately. For example here <a href="http://www.timecamp.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.timecamp.com&#x2F;</a>
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throwaway7989almost 12 years ago
This company is a very smart scam. I&#x27;m an experienced ruby developer, and have been following them for a while. I checked out the course just out of curiosity when it was up on Skillshare. The way Mattan approaches the topic is interesting, and makes this company one of the most successful and not-scam -looking scams you will find. Here&#x27;s how it works.<p>Rails is currently a buzzword for those just starting to try to learn how to code - very attractive. But in reality, Rails is not the best way to start learning code, it&#x27;s a framework for experienced developers. Rails takes a ton of shortcuts and pushes a lot of things under the hood. This is very convenient if you understand the concepts that rails has abstracted, but very dangerous if you don&#x27;t. Rails makes it easy to set up a basic rest MVC app for testing, but making a full blown custom web app requires a good understanding of many concepts, some of which are detailed below:<p>- The principles of computer programming - SQL and relational database design - HTTP protocol, how it works - MVC architecture, why and how it operates - HTML, CSS, Javascript, and Ruby - proficient at least - The difference between client and server and how they interact - Basic web security - The command line and UNIX<p>I could go on with that list, but you get the idea. Building a real rails app is tough, and requires a large stack of knowledge that simply cannot be amassed within one month.<p>So how does Mattan handle this? He does away with the part where you actually learn any of these things. In One Month Rails, you are quickly introduced to concepts, then given code you can copy and paste in order to make it work.<p>For students, this is fantastic. They are attracted by the word &quot;Rails&quot; and the concept of becoming a programmer in one month (and allegedly making over $100k&#x2F;year after that, as he claims). Everything works great, and it comes really easy. You skip the whole hard part where you actually need to understand things, and are just fed answers that always work. You look at him type the code, then you copy it exactly yourself. Developing an app suddenly became easy.<p>Fast forward to the end of the course. You have a working clone of twitter or pinterest or something, and life is good. You made this all yourself - you put in the code, ran the migrations, added the twitter bootstrap classes, etc. You are asked to review the course and of course you give Mattan a glowing review. It really worked - within a month you were able to build a full web app on your own!<p>By now, most of you will recognize where the scam is. You paid for the course, you finished it and you gave it a great review. But you also have <i>not learned anything at all</i>. And as soon as you actually need to go build an app or apply for a job, you&#x27;ll quickly realize that you are out of luck. This is a successful and obviously profitable class, but at it&#x27;s core, it&#x27;s a scam. And to add to that, Mattan is at most a junior level developer himself.<p>This post is not here with the intent to be mean to Mattan or his company - he is a great guy, and the company has obviously been successful. I just wrote this here to tell the truth about what the company is doing and how it operates. I would love to see stats on how many people who have taken Mattan&#x27;s class have gone on to actually having a career as a developer. I&#x27;m willing to bet it&#x27;s 1% or less. But prove me wrong, please.
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stevewilhelmalmost 12 years ago
During a gold rush, sell pickaxes and shovels.
smooradianalmost 12 years ago
I took this class on SkillShare with almost zero experience and loved it. I wish the lecture notes were formatted for printing. Keep up the good work Mattan.
praksteralmost 12 years ago
Hey Mattan,<p>Do I have to have a Mac for your course? A Windows Laptop won&#x27;t do? I want to make sure I don&#x27;t get caught with the wrong hardware.<p>I asked YC a couple of days back, and most said &#x27;no&#x27;, although the q was not specific to your program: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6152605" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6152605</a>
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richsinalmost 12 years ago
I did this course a few months back when it was on Skillshare and met Mattan at General Assembly in NYC - he&#x27;s a sharp guy and very pleasant to talk to. The course is a great introduction for anyone new to programming to get from zero to app in a short period of time. It also allows people to determine if this is something they really want to dive into.
scubastevealmost 12 years ago
Looking forward to trying this out! As an FYI, you&#x27;re missing a period in one of your paragraphs for your email copy &quot;...If you’re not sure what to build? ...no worries, I have advice for that too&quot; - that last line should be &quot;too.&quot;.
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ulisesrmzrochealmost 12 years ago
It would be far more honest to give a real starting salary rather than almost CTO ones.
Yhippaalmost 12 years ago
Hmm. I clicked on the intro video to play it. It started playing. I clicked on the dark background to dismiss it so I could continue viewing the site. The video still played in the background instead of pausing or stopping.
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eranationalmost 12 years ago
Congratulations Mattan! I&#x27;m looking forward for something like this but on growth hacking... since Googling about growth hacking yields so many great items you wrote on the subject, is there anything planned?
xpop2027almost 12 years ago
I took this course and learned more while taking it than any other RoR course.
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lrobbalmost 12 years ago
This is eerily similar to what happened with seo: people started to realize there was more money to be made teaching people <i>how</i> to make lemonade than there was in actually <i>selling</i> lemonade.
saturdayplacealmost 12 years ago
Well, if this isn&#x27;t validation for my latest idea, I don&#x27;t know what is. I know it shouldn&#x27;t, but finding out about competitors always seems to take the wind out of my sails.
behalmost 12 years ago
Here&#x27;s a code for 10% off: <a href="http://onemonthrails.com/signup?discount_code=rEEvPf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;onemonthrails.com&#x2F;signup?discount_code=rEEvPf</a>
cschmidtalmost 12 years ago
Hmm, it says:<p><pre><code> Which Programming Language should I choose? </code></pre> on a site called One Month Rails. I wonder what language they&#x27;ll suggest?
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codexalmost 12 years ago
Make money fast--earn thousands of dollars working from home in your spare time!<p>Truth is, in a world where everybody is special, nobody is.