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Judge to serve 28 years after making $2 million sending children to jail

314 pointsby rubikscubealmost 12 years ago

32 comments

protomythalmost 12 years ago
&quot;Pennsylvania is one of just a handful of states that do not provide any money to counties to defend those who can&#x27;t afford a lawyer.&quot;[1]<p>Perhaps the DA and Public Defenders office should have equal budgets.<p>I am hoping some very smart lawyer figures out how to sue the prison company for these children. I am sure their is a corporate veil, but it can be pierced in the cases of criminal activity. Public-private partnerships work in a lot of cases, but this one needs a serious hammer to show that pulling this crap is bad and will put some scheming folks in jail.<p>1) <a href="http://www.npr.org/2012/03/03/147876810/after-scandal-new-rules-for-juveniles-in-pa-courts" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2012&#x2F;03&#x2F;03&#x2F;147876810&#x2F;after-scandal-new-ru...</a>
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argumentumalmost 12 years ago
I&#x27;ve been following this case for a while .. extremely disturbing situation and the sentences were far too light for many of the offending parties, such as the builder of the facility who bribed the judges. Just imagine how it must have felt to be one of the kids. It&#x27;s sick, really.<p>It seems that if you hide behind corporate structures and contracts you can transform the nature of charges against your actions. In this case, the offenses committed involved <i>enslaving children for personal financial gain</i>. If there is any offense worse than that, please inform.
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solisticealmost 12 years ago
What really troubles me is what they&#x27;ll do to help those 4000 children. I think they might lack the maturity to deal with their experience. Hell, if someone sent me to jail over something like that when I was in my teens, I would certainly have taken the wrong turn at that point.
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drcubealmost 12 years ago
&gt; ... received more than $2.6 million ...<p>&gt; ... forced to pay $1 million ...<p>Moral: crime pays.
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sp332almost 12 years ago
The big news: <i>Once Ciavarella was convicted, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court tossed out 4,000 convictions issued by the judge.</i> Will the kids or their families get any restitution for wrongful imprisonment?
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mmanfrinalmost 12 years ago
It is an absolute travesty that PA Child Care, the people paying the bribes, have had hardly a punishment at all.
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jdmtalmost 12 years ago
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kids_for_cash_scandal</a><p>This whole problem stems from the movement to privatize prisons. It&#x27;s a disgusting abuse of power. The lives of many at-risk children (and their families) have been turned upside-down due to greed.
noloqyalmost 12 years ago
It&#x27;s sad that in my country, where prisons are currently run by the government, there exist plans for privatization. With privatization there&#x27;s almost no benefits, and a lot of opportunities for trouble; it the Dutch government feels the urge to repeat the mistakes of others.
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mathattackalmost 12 years ago
I feel like I fell for link bait - awful title.<p>That said, this is hardly a fair sentence. He should have to serve time equal to all those lives he destroyed. How about surrendering the money and life in prison?
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nokyaalmost 12 years ago
They forgot the best part: 1) Statistical analysis of the children&#x27;s ethnicity and religion. Where is it? 2) What about the personnel working in the prisons? Where they all completely unaware of that situation? 3) Private prisons are State-financed. Translation: money was taken from the pockets of US citizens to make sure these children would not have any chance of a bright future.<p>Meanwhile, in the USA...
ajiangalmost 12 years ago
You can wrongfully send kids&#x2F;people to jail as long as you don&#x27;t make money off of it.
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Expeckalmost 12 years ago
Wow! I remember these guys from Micheal Moore&#x27;s movie &quot;Capitalism a Love Story&quot;.There is part about private jails for teenagers. It says that 6500 kids were unjustly convicted. Some kids were locked up even when probation officers objected to detention. You can watch that part here: <a href="http://vimeo.com/39118828" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;39118828</a> 00:30:30
dlhavemaalmost 12 years ago
the title referenced &quot;black children&quot; specifically, but the article didn&#x27;t mention it at all, is it supposed to be assumed all&#x2F;majority of the kids sent to jail were black?
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forrestthewoodsalmost 12 years ago
Can we also send all prosecutors who only care about maintaing a 100% conviction rate to jail? Their actions are the exact same as far as I&#x27;m concerned.
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ojbyrnealmost 12 years ago
Usually when &quot;restitution&quot; it always seems to be significantly more than the amount actually taken. In this case, not, and I wonder why:<p>&quot;...received more than $2.6 million from privately run youth centers owned by PA Child Care. In 2011, Ciavarella was convicted of racketeering and sentenced to 28 years in prison. He was also forced to pay $1 million in restitution...&quot;
donohoealmost 12 years ago
The question is - where else is this happening now?
guiseppecalzonealmost 12 years ago
There&#x27;s no mention if there were any repercussions for the private juvenile facilities.
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beedogsalmost 12 years ago
I hope this asshole dies in jail, and I fear he&#x27;s not the last crooked judge they&#x27;ll catch doing this shit.<p>Private prisons are a disgrace to the justice system.
grecyalmost 12 years ago
That&#x27;s a special kind of evil.
patmcguirealmost 12 years ago
I&#x27;ve not seen on a single story related to this about the actual bribers: they just name the company, but don&#x27;t press criminal charges against individuals, or even sue the company? How is that an appropriate response?
canadiancreedalmost 12 years ago
When I first heard about this, I was thinking that it happened in a third world country. After reading that it occured in Pennsylvania....I&#x27;m just amazed, disgusted, and furious. Hopefully Harrisburg does a long cleanup of that section of the state&#x27;s court system, that civil suit crushes those responsible for this, and the bastards that profited from such a bastardization of justice serve the entire sentence out in a Hell on earth.
cmsmithalmost 12 years ago
(in 2011)<p>looks like one of his latest appeals was denied recently.
orbitingplutoalmost 12 years ago
Those who prey on children tend to have a real bad time in prison when the prison population finds out.<p>Considering the number of people sentenced, good luck keeping their identities a secret. Neither of the judges is going to enjoy their stay.
s_babyalmost 12 years ago
As I&#x27;ve read about this story for the past couple years not once have the bribers been mentioned. How much time will they be serving? Are these really people that should be trusted with the incarceration of minors?
spoiledtechiealmost 12 years ago
This might be news, but what the heck does this have to do with Hacker News?
mhartlalmost 12 years ago
Contra the OP, the problem isn&#x27;t for-profit prisons <i>per se</i>; the problem is for-profit prisons in a political system highly susceptible to rent-seeking by special interest groups.
SloughFegalmost 12 years ago
Anyone else want to create a HN spinoff with me? We can call it &quot;SOCIAL JUSTICE NEWS&quot; or just &quot;SOCIAL J&quot; for short.
chris_wotalmost 12 years ago
4,000 kids? Each kid has at least 5 people who love and care for them.<p>20,000 folks who start an action group might start some change!
batistealmost 12 years ago
This is absolutely revolting and disgusting! Good think he got 28 years.
icn2almost 12 years ago
This is why I always object monetizing public services.
negamaxalmost 12 years ago
Would the prison company be punished for this?
vegor5almost 12 years ago
Should have gotten the lethal injection.
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