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Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

177 pointsby erodedalmost 12 years ago

26 comments

MBCookalmost 12 years ago
The woman doing the interview really seems to do a poor job.<p>She seems to let Wozniak get about 80-90% into statements and then speedily talk over him to move onto the next point. It doesn&#x27;t sound like she&#x27;s actually <i>listening</i> to his answers, just going down her checklist. At one point he explains why he liked Sorkin&#x27;s approach better than Kutcher&#x27;s, then she asked a later question as if he had never said that.<p>It&#x27;s kind of sad. Woz mentioned numerous times that the problem was showing the pre-firing Jobs behaving and being treated more like he was after having matured, but the interviewer just didn&#x27;t get it.<p>She also asked quite a few questions designed in a &quot;X vs. Y, choose now!&quot; style, trying to get a soundbite or setup a narrative (Woz wisely wouldn&#x27;t fall for it). Between that and the interrupting, it was actually kind of hard to listen to.<p>Missed opportunities, I guess.
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dansoalmost 12 years ago
What really burns me is how the &quot;Jobs&quot; people treated his criticism as being motivated out of money. From Ashton Kutcher:<p><a href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac-os-x/22659/jobs-ashton-kutcher-hits-back-woz" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.computerworld.com&#x2F;mac-os-x&#x2F;22659&#x2F;jobs-ashton-ku...</a><p>&gt; <i>&quot;Woz is being paid by another company to support a different Steve Jobs film. It&#x27;s personal for him, but it&#x27;s also business. We have to keep that in mind.&quot;</i><p>Seriously? Woz is the guy who gave his Apple stock shares to co-workers he felt were slighted in the IPO. Hello, he&#x27;s the guy who wanted to give his groundbreaking engineering behind the Apple away for free.<p>Woz is an engineering legend...but if there were a Hall of Fame for generosity and integrity, he&#x27;d be in there too. Shame on the &quot;Jobs&quot; people and it&#x27;s great to see the lukewarm&#x2F;negative reviews roll in for their shit sandwich of a biopic.
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VonGuardalmost 12 years ago
In the heady days of my youth in the early 90&#x27;s I was foolishly of the opinion that Apple would one day rule the world, and that Steve Jobs would be seen as some sort of Christ figure. I kinda looked up to him in that fashion, at the time, even before he&#x27;d come back to Apple after Next.<p>Of course, when I actually became an adult, I realized the error of my ways, switched to Linux,and over time my admiration only grew for Woz.<p>I once appeared in a reenactment of a Jobs&#x2F;Woz story on TV: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEuJMPBZJ7c" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KEuJMPBZJ7c</a> . It was a cheesey TV reenactment, and it really doesn&#x27;t matter which one of the two Steve&#x27;s I was playing, versus which one was portrayed by my child-hood friend, Travis. But during the filming, I did get to handle a Woz Blue Box, and an Apple I board. It was like touching a Rembrandt, or a Van Gogh.<p>At the time, I pretended to be Jobs. These days, I say I played Woz.<p>Woz, to put it bluntly, is the awesomest hacker&#x2F;engineer, ever. He&#x27;s just a freakin&#x27; god! Everything he&#x27;s ever done has been 10% pure hacker ethos. The early Apple I&#x27;s came with a complete explanation of how they were laid out, hardware-wise. The manual was a work of pure joy. You don&#x27;t get technical writing like that, ever. Nothing was hidden. <a href="http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Apple/Apple.AppleI.1976.102646518.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.computerhistory.org&#x2F;resources&#x2F;text&#x2F;Apple&#x2F;Appl...</a><p>If you like that, ever head of the CL 9? Woz, after leaving Apple due to surviving a freakin&#x27; plane crash, decided he wanted to fix the then common remote control. The CL9 Core remote control was a hacker&#x27;s dream device. You could program it to emit whatever IR signals you wanted, and it came with a manual explaining as much. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CL_9" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;CL_9</a><p>Jobs, on the other hand, was a seriously driven guy. An entrepreneur&#x27;s entrepreneur. Take that for what you will, the good and the bad. I&#x27;ve always taken it to mean he was good at spotting an opportunity and exploiting it.<p>I, for one, will always worship the engineer, first.
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hayksaakianalmost 12 years ago
For a better film concerning the same topic, try pirates of silicon valley.<p>Its a bit old, but quite good.
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dirkgentlyalmost 12 years ago
If we wait long enough, we will also find out that Steve Jobs invented practically everything around us - the bits, the bytes, the electricity, atoms and molecules. Hack, he was the first fish out of the water that gave raise to the man kind millions of years later.<p>All Hail the King Jobs.
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subdanealmost 12 years ago
I love Woz&#x27;s honesty. I actually think the issues he brings up would have made for a better film - because they illuminate all the ways Jobs failed early in his career... and ultimately learned from his failures to realize the success of his later iYears. Real conflict and real resolution. But that&#x27;s a different film, it sounds like. (The one I wish they&#x27;d made).
juandopazoalmost 12 years ago
For comparison here&#x27;s what he had to say about &quot;Pirates of Silicon Valley&quot; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lx9JsSTklI" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1lx9JsSTklI</a>
sethbannonalmost 12 years ago
Every time I see a Woz interview I&#x27;m struck by what a genuinely good guy he seems to be.
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jared314almost 12 years ago
People had similar things to say about The Social Network. It was wrong about history, but it was also a good movie on its own. We will see if &quot;Jobs&quot;, as a movie, can stand on its own.
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rchalmost 12 years ago
Link needs a [video] warning or something.
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timkelleralmost 12 years ago
A wasted opportunity to properly interview a great man. There are a few people that you interview with reverence: Woz is one of them.
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esusatyoalmost 12 years ago
What is wrong with the interviewer? Towards the end she kept pushing Woz to say that Apple is in decline. Even after Woz repeatedly said that he didn&#x27;t believe so.<p>Is this the view of the general public? That Apple is doomed if they don&#x27;t release iWatch or whatever that&#x27;s bigger than the iPhone&#x2F;iPad?
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k-mcgradyalmost 12 years ago
Was this movie meant to be a documentary? I was under the impression it was supposed to be more like The Social Network. Some facts but mainly just entertainment.<p>The Social Network may not be factually accurate but I enjoyed it and watched it again. I&#x27;m guessing this will be similar.
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CamperBob2almost 12 years ago
Please don&#x27;t link directly to auto-playing video pages. At least not until browser vendors get their acts together and indicate which tabs are generating sound. (No, I&#x27;m not interested in a long list of excuses as to why that&#x27;s hard to do.)
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npguyalmost 12 years ago
The movie kind of confirms the fact that steve jobs actually lived for 150 years.<p><a href="http://fakevalley.com/steve-jobs-actually-lived-for-150-years/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fakevalley.com&#x2F;steve-jobs-actually-lived-for-150-year...</a>
purephasealmost 12 years ago
Anyone else think that all this negative press is on purpose? I mean, really. They&#x27;ve taken one of the most iconic men of this nascent century and apparently slapped together a movie about him.<p>It&#x27;s not like there is not considerable source material to work with (even without Isaacson&#x27;s book if you&#x27;re concerned about the &quot;other&quot; movie).<p>It just feels like someone has asked the press to deliberately drum up negative opinions specifically in regards to the true validity of the movie (not, you know, overall quality) and it will likely drive people out in droves.
gsandsalmost 12 years ago
She lets him talk more than most interviewers I&#x27;ve seen. Which is great because I could listen to a guy like Woz talk all day.
zw123456almost 12 years ago
I know this is going to sound petty, but I just think Ashton Kutcher was a bad choice. He is too dumb to play Jobs. I would go for someone with more intellect, perhaps Daniel Day-Lewis, somebody edgey, Peter Fonda, Duston Hoffman, I dunno, it is not that I do not like Kutcher, it just seems like he is too dumb to play Jobs. Is it just me?
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evlialmost 12 years ago
I feel sorry for woz. The interviewer seems she had no clue what she was talking about.
jamesjguthriealmost 12 years ago
I still really want to see it. I&#x27;ve just watched all the Steve Jobs documentaries on Netflix and I love Pirates of Silicon Valley.<p>Can&#x27;t find details of when or if it&#x27;s coming to the UK...
waylonrobertalmost 12 years ago
Not really surprised by the inaccuracies. Memories fade over time and are often replaced my an amalgamation of memory fragments and what makes sense.
taigeairalmost 12 years ago
Damn. Wozniak should be a movie critic. I&#x27;d watch.
mshalmost 12 years ago
is anyone surprised?
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cruise02almost 12 years ago
There should be an update in a few weeks that fixes all the problems with the film.
Uchikomaalmost 12 years ago
Can we stop this Wozniak worshiping every time there is a link to something this guy said?
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rickdalealmost 12 years ago
I have the understanding that this movie was made in Hollywood, and therefore, Steve Wozniak complaining about the accuracy of the movie is irrelevant. Steve&#x27;s main point is that the movie doesn&#x27;t accurately portray Jobs in the early days and that he evolved into the character Ashton Kutcher plays. It&#x27;s Hollywood, and its different perspectives. I think usually movies are &#x27;based on a true story&#x27; not exactly a true story.<p>Woz has his own fame, so I don&#x27;t see this as a jealous rant, but I do see it as a guy waving his arms screaming to the public &quot;HEY HEY, I AM STILL HERE! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!&quot;<p>EDIT ---- Yeah down vote me, my bet is you didn&#x27;t watch the whole video.
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