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Polyphasic Sleep

32 pointsby singoldover 11 years ago

17 comments

outworlderover 11 years ago
I have found exactly zero peer-reviewed studies that say that you can replace what is considered to be normal sleep (with one or two phases) with polyphasic sleep.<p>I&#x27;ve once seen a quote (can&#x27;t find it on google right now) from a doctor who said something like &quot;Trying to &#x27;adapt&#x27; to polyphasic sleep is like trying to teach your bowel to excrete in portions of exactly 25 grams. It doesn&#x27;t work that way.&quot;.<p>Alarm clocks are designed to scare our brains, as if we were in danger, to forcefully wake us up. I can&#x27;t imagine that sort of punishment, multiple times a day, over long term.<p>Researching the subject, I have found the following link. Note that the Supermemo software is from the author, so there is some bias there towards using (and purchasing) the software. Other then that, the articles are interesting. <a href="http://www.supermemo.com/articles/polyphasic2010.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.supermemo.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;polyphasic2010.htm</a>
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randallover 11 years ago
I did it for 90 days. It was awesome. Then the holidays hit, which made it impossible.<p>Polyphasic is perfect for the person who doesn&#x27;t have any other life commitments and wants to be super productive every day. (Weekend mornings get super boring, btw. So I replayed every Xbox game I own. And then that got boring.)
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nicholassmithover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m considering switching to a polyphasic sleep cycle in the next few weeks, I&#x27;ve often found myself more productive on 4 hours + nap when I&#x27;ve had the opportunity but my work schedule has precluded me from attempting it. There&#x27;s been a few interesting studies and articles where the rise of monophasic sleep is a relatively recent addition to modern lives (I think ~Victorian era), but obviously we all have a distinct number of years of sleep patterning that our bodies are accustomed too.
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wellboyover 11 years ago
Ok my friend has done this and it is definitely interesting. However, if you do polyphasic sleep, you age several times faster during that time, approximately around 5 times faster. So if you do Polyphasic Sleep for a month, you&#x27;ll actually age 5 months. If you do it for 5 years, theoretically you will 25 years, whereas I believe the aging process accelerates every month.<p>There are no research results on these numbers yet and it could be only 4 times faster, 10 times faster or accelerate by one time faster every month, however the reason for accelerated aging process is the fact that with Polyphasic sleep you only hit the REM phases of sleep, which regenerates your mind.<p>So you can give your mind a break and it will be back to speed again, however you never hit deep sleep phases which is where the cell regeneration happens.<p>So as long as you&#x27;re doing Polyphasic Sleep, you are essentially going without cell regeneration, thus the accelerated aging process.<p>So you have to be aware of the trade off between increased productivity to accelerated aging. However, Polyphasic Sleep for 2 weeks in a crucial time in your life (finals, startup just getting traction etc.) it can definitely be an attractive option, because it can improve your life dramatically and it doesn&#x27;t really matter if your lose a couple of weeks of life span, since you can get it back when your can harvest your fruits of work. :)
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albedoover 11 years ago
I think a lot of people think about this the wrong way.<p>The way I see it, if you&#x27;re able to successfully adapt to Uberman, you get an additional ~6 hours a day. Any negative effects you would experience from being on Uberman need to be collectively greater than getting 6 hours of additional life per day, in order for it to not be worth it.<p>6 hours per day is really awesome. It&#x27;s not just additional productivity. It&#x27;s additional life. And it&#x27;s not additional life at the end of your life, it&#x27;s additional life now, when the value is likely to be very high.<p>A useful test for these sorts of things is to ask yourself whether you would make the same trade if it were to be reversed. If you had grown up on polyphasic sleep, would you give up 6 hours of your life per day in order to feel mildly more productive on average, and to gain some additional flexibility in your schedule?
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jadeddragover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve tried this for a few months, and cannot recommend it. One of the only things I really enjoyed was how vivid the dreams were. However even after the experiment, I found it difficult to stay awake during important parts of the day, and felt like I could easily slip back into the polyphasic cycle.
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michaelburnsover 11 years ago
I remember trying this some year ago when a lot of bloggers were trying it out and blogging about their experiences. I tried the Uberman Sleep Cycle (4x15min) but inevitably it wore me down to the point of being completely nonfunctional.
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FR6over 11 years ago
When I was in university I tried the polyphasic sleep technic for 5 weeks. Here are my findings:<p>- The first 14 days are really difficult because the system must adapt and causes a severe lack of sleep. During this period, I would not trust myself to drive a car.<p>- Do not drink coffee and alcohol because it completely destabilizes the system.<p>- The vivid&#x2F;lucid dreams where an incredible experience.<p>- Not sleeping at the same hours as my girlfriend.<p>- Time... so much time! It is also often the reason that people fail to polyphasic sleeping. Some people don&#x27;t find anything to do and fall asleep watching television.<p>Overall a very pleasant experience!
pchristensenover 11 years ago
My experience from a few years ago: Loved it but it only worked when I stuck to the schedule. Work, commute and family made that impossible so I only lasted 2 weeks.<p>More details:<p><a href="http://www.pchristensen.com/blog/articles/category/polyphasic/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pchristensen.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;articles&#x2F;category&#x2F;polyphasi...</a><p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=115056" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=115056</a>
alexhawdonover 11 years ago
Not completely connected, but I&#x27;d be very interested to hear if anyone&#x27;s experienced something similar. Or, even better, can point to some science that can explain my experience:<p>I find my concentration improves tremendously after I&#x27;ve been awake for 20-24 hours, and I can continue being more productive than usual for up to about 40 hours, at which point the negative effects start to outweigh the positives.<p>Anyone experienced anything similar? I should note that I&#x27;ve not done this repeatedly&#x2F;for extended periods and I only allow myself to do it if I&#x27;m sufficiently well-rested. (Otherwise I just figure it really isn&#x27;t going to be worth it and I&#x27;m better getting myself to bed and getting an early start.)<p>I&#x27;m afraid I have no data to support my claims. In the absence of data I do have an anecdote though(!) - I remember when I was maybe 8-12 years old travelling long-haul and had been up for 45+ hours absolutely SMASHING a puzzle game (slide the blocks type thing) on my Gameboy - previously I&#x27;d struggled to get past the initial few levels. I&#x27;d not thought about it much until recently when I noticed this effect (end of Master&#x27;s degree... you know the score).
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RDeckardover 11 years ago
Inevitable Seinfeld reference: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLTg2nHZEHQ" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=XLTg2nHZEHQ</a>
jason_slackover 11 years ago
I read a lot about this and tried it mid last year. It was hard to adjust to at first. I was really missing some social time and there were times at around 2am that I became depressed with being up at that hour, even though it was my choice.<p>Productivity was great. I felt rested after my small naps and the dreaming felt very real. Almost to real for certain types of dreams.<p>I am in the middle of writing a video game and was talking with my wife yesterday about trying this again to get through the last crunch.
dustin999over 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve never been too successful with polyphasic sleep, at least not the hardcore type (6x20m naps). That said, a lot of very successful people have adopted biphasic sleeping, taking a shorter core nap (4 to 6 hours) with a nap during the day. I think this is a better approach, especially if you&#x27;re in a field where you use your brain a lot. Taking a 30m nap can do wonders after lunch.
jpwagnerover 11 years ago
This is a great read on the topic: <a href="http://dustincurtis.com/sleep.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;dustincurtis.com&#x2F;sleep.html</a>
comrhover 11 years ago
Also interesting is caffeine BEFORE a nap. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_nap#The_caffeine_nap" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Power_nap#The_caffeine_nap</a>
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ignosticover 11 years ago
I followed a polyphasic sleep pattern for maybe 2 months, and I wouldn&#x27;t recommend it to anyone.<p>There are the more obvious obstacles: your friends, family, and co-workers don&#x27;t follow the same schedule. It&#x27;s lonely for anyone who values social connection. Unless you work on your own, the workplace is a bad environment for sleep.<p>There are also potential health concerns for certain polyphasic sleep schedules. Most polyphasic sleepers don&#x27;t sleep a full ~8.5 hours in a day. Your body uses sleep to refresh your body and keep the body (particularly the circulatory system) running strong. On my schedule, I started by sleeping about 5 hours. I was monitoring my blood pressure, and while it remained within a healthy range (I was in my mid twenties) the variance was much greater than it was on 8.5 hours. When I went to sleep late at night, my BP was quite low.<p>The long-term health effects aren&#x27;t well known - there aren&#x27;t many people to study, and a clinical trial would be all but impossible (people would likely not adhere to it). We can make some guesses, though. For one thing, you&#x27;re altering the way melatonin and cortisol work in your system. Messing with your body&#x27;s chemical and hormonal balance usually doesn&#x27;t turn out well for health.<p>We have one group to compare with: people who work night shifts. Studies have shown they&#x27;re at increased risks for <i>heart problems, ulcers, obesity, depression, some cancer, other gastrointestinal diseases</i>, and possibly more. (Just Google it or use Scholar: <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&amp;q=night+shift+workers+health" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?hl=en&amp;q=night+shift+worker...</a>) I certainly experienced depression.<p>There are other things that are just annoying. As someone else stated, coffee is a bad idea, and so is alcohol, and I enjoy both. Most people will have to decide between holding to a schedule or attending others&#x27; events. You&#x27;ll probably either eat worse at night or have to cook more. Nothing is open when you&#x27;re awake. The list goes on.<p>I don&#x27;t recommend it, but if you DO think you want to try it, still, here are some suggestions:<p>-You must have a completely dark room to sleep in during the daytime.<p>-Avoid coffee and alcohol. In fact, cut coffee and alcohol out before you change your sleep schedule. Doing both (especially if you rely on coffee) will be quite a shock.<p>-To adhere to the schedule, you&#x27;ll have to think of what you&#x27;re going to do when no one you know is awake. You need to schedule things.<p>-Don&#x27;t forget to schedule social things. I tried to be wake up before 7 PM when many social things seem to start.
burgerzover 11 years ago
Speaking from personal experience, but I&#x27;m sure many of you can relate, when I wake up from afternoon sleep, I will feel even more tired, disoriented and sometimes with a headache. Perhaps you have to adapt to breaking up sleep, but I&#x27;ve found it difficult.