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UK asked N.Y. Times to destroy Snowden material

42 pointsby primrootover 11 years ago

7 comments

teamgbover 11 years ago
It&#x27;s all very confusing so no point rushing to any conclusions.<p>The Register writes:<p><i>&quot;the government says that Miranda was actually carrying a piece of paper with a decryption password written on it. This allowed the police to read at least some of the files he was carrying.&quot;</i> [1]<p>While Greenwald just tweeted:<p><i>&quot;Anyone claiming that David Miranda was carrying a password that allowed access to documents is lying. UK itself says they can&#x27;t access them.&quot;</i>[2]<p>[1] <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/30/snowden_journos_boyfriend_had_crypto_key_for_thumbdrive_files_written_down_cops/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.co.uk&#x2F;2013&#x2F;08&#x2F;30&#x2F;snowden_journos_boyf...</a><p>[2] <a href="https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/373451644794449922" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ggreenwald&#x2F;status&#x2F;373451644794449922</a>
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venomsnakeover 11 years ago
That makes no sense. If you can decrypt 20 gigabytes of a TC volume you can access the other 40 too.<p>There are few explanations<p>1. The 20 gigabytes in question were not encrypted (which coincidentally is the size of a windows installation)<p>2. The 75 files were temp files<p>3. They managed to open 60 gig container but could not access the hidden volume<p>The third option makes sense with the decryping passphrase being in possession of Miranda - the first 20 GB are a warning.
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late2partover 11 years ago
Reading the report at its face, it doesn&#x27;t say the encrypted data was obtained.<p>It says:<p>1. Goode said the hard drive contained around 60 gigabytes of data<p>2. &quot;of which only 20 have been accessed to date.&quot;<p>3. She said that she had been advised that the hard drive contains &quot;approximately 58,000 UK documents which are highly classified in nature, to the highest level.&quot;<p>4. Goode said the process to decode the material was complex and that &quot;so far only 75 documents have been reconstructed since the property was initially received.&quot;<p>Let&#x27;s assume (as a possibility) that:<p>1. It&#x27;s a 60GB hard drive 2. It has a 40GB Truecrypt partition 3. There are deleted files on the 20GB partition that were not securely erased<p>This theory does not explain everything, but might it be plausible?
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primrootover 11 years ago
&quot;In her witness statement submitted to the British court on Friday, Detective Superintendent Caroline Goode, who said she was in charge of Scotland Yard&#x27;s Snowden-related investigation, said that among materials officials had seized from Miranda while detaining him was an &quot;external hard drive&quot; containing data encrypted by a system called &quot;True Crypt,&quot; which Goode said &quot;renders the material extremely difficult to access.&quot;<p>Goode said the hard drive contained around 60 gigabytes of data, &quot;of which only 20 have been accessed to date.&quot; She said that she had been advised that the hard drive contains &quot;approximately 58,000 UK documents which are highly classified in nature, to the highest level.&quot;<p>Isn&#x27;t this supposed to be very unlikely to happen when using TrueCrypt? Can someone explain what could have gone wrong in the process of storing this data?
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ecaronover 11 years ago
A big thank-you to the HN mods for not rewriting this posts headline to match the article&#x27;s. Although &quot;UK asked N.Y. Times to destroy Snowden material&quot; matches the main focus of the article, the part involve TrueCrypt is what makes it applicable to the HN audience.<p>So a big round of applause for not clobbering this article&#x27;s rewritten headline - you&#x27;re all called out far too often for doing negative work and deserve acknowledgement for doing good;-)
smegelover 11 years ago
Snowden must have really hit the jackpot.<p>It will be interesting to see what else comes out.
devxover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m disappointed in how Greenwald planned the whole thing. Did he really not expect this to happen - especially in UK? Why didn&#x27;t he have Miranda delete the files as soon as he gave them to Laura Poitras or whatever he did with them in Germany.<p>Now, whatever Greenwald wants to release next needs to be done fast, before the governments prepare well crafted rebuttals to whatever he&#x27;s releasing, because they&#x27;ll know what he&#x27;ll release next.
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