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ESR: Computer Language Trends in 2009

29 pointsby rglovejoyalmost 16 years ago

6 comments

davidwalmost 16 years ago
As for why Tcl won't just up and die, see the SQLite testing thread. Tcl's built like that too, and built well: native threads, Unicode, a very extensive C API. Definitely some pieces missing (OO), but they are being actively worked on. In other words, Tcl is not the most popular thing out there by a long shot, but it's not "dying" either.
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nossalmost 16 years ago
Looks like we Erlang people can remain as a cool underground movement.<p>Thank you ESR.
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rjurneyalmost 16 years ago
Perl projects and modules exist in CPAN, so the data has very little relevance. Perl developers tend to push FOSS modules, not complete systems.
adamcalmost 16 years ago
Favorite quote: "Perl has become the COBOL of web design"
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wheelsalmost 16 years ago
davidw runs a site that does much more comprehensive stats:<p><a href="http://langpop.com/" rel="nofollow">http://langpop.com/</a>
shoalmost 16 years ago
I don't think this is a very valid comparison. Sourceforge is not popular as a repository for a number of the more "modern" languages, and seems to focus more on "end user ready" projects than modules, plug-ins, etc, which is perhaps the primary delivery format for projects in the script-y languages.<p>Even if you included more repositories, though, still - what's the point? It's good to see trends, yes, but at least try and keep them in the same general domain. No-one is going to be making a choice between developing in C or in Ruby; they are different worlds in so many ways. And even counting projects is a bad metric in itself; someone starting a C project might be expected to have some reason for doing so, and thus he might be likely to at least half-finish it; Ruby "projects" are so easy to start that many developers don't seem to feel the day has really begun until they've tossed off half a dozen crappy new gems.<p>Nice talking point I guess but I wouldn't read much into these. And personally I am happy to see the fast rate of change and evolution. I would like to see it accelerate even faster. In particular I am hoping to see a mass migration towards a more distributed, federated project hosting paradigm; hopefully the next step after everyone is comfortable with git and the other DSCM systems, which will render this kind of "trends" article even harder to write :D