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Thoughts and Observations on Today’s iPhone 5C and 5S Introduction

59 pointsby cuttoothover 11 years ago

10 comments

stevep98over 11 years ago
&gt; Next, it has an intriguing “motion coprocessor”, which I think pretty much means you can use your 5S as a fitness tracker with almost no effect on your battery life.<p>My guess is that it&#x27;s much more than this. It&#x27;s for augmenting the GPS location with dead-reckoning, for places where the GPS location doesn&#x27;t reach well, such as buildings or on subways, etc.<p>Accelerometers are already pretty sensitive - enough to provide an improvement on GPS-only devices. But, this new coprocessor will allow a much higher-resolution sampling of the accelerometer, and thus the integration (in the calclus sense) of acceleration into velocity and distance will be much more precise.
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moleculeover 11 years ago
&gt; Take a look at apple.com today and note which new iPhone appears first the 5C, not the 5S. Which phone did they show a commercial for? The 5C.<p>Which one will have a higher profit margin for Apple? The 5C.
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hcarvalhoalvesover 11 years ago
The 5S camera is killer. f&#x2F;2.2, apparently a great sensor for the size and 120fps video is more than most pocket cameras offer. Manufacturers of point-of-shoot cameras can pack up and leave if this is a trend.
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T-zexover 11 years ago
Nokia designers should be proud of themselves for setting a colorful plastic case trend for the smart phone market and even influencing the iPhone.
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josteinkover 11 years ago
&gt; Yes, it’s plastic, but there’s nothing cheap about it.<p>Hard back-pedalling on plastic observed.
nwhover 11 years ago
They seriously need to fix their international pricing. For a 64GB model it&#x27;s $913AUD to buy an iPhone 5s in the US, $1129AUD to buy one in Australia. What?
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halfninetyover 11 years ago
My opinion is the exact opposite. I don&#x27;t think the 5C is an appealing middle tier, I believe it&#x27;s a dumb middle tier, and maybe intentionally so, to make the premium offering stand out more.<p>1. If it&#x27;s intended to be appealing, why call it &quot;5 Cheap&quot;? Okay, Apple didn&#x27;t call it &quot;5 Cheap&quot;, but everyone thinks so, and in marketing, what consumers think is the truth. Additionally, Apple didn&#x27;t try to correct people when everyone thought it would be cheap. Who is gonna buy a phone that is &quot;cheap&quot; but not cost effective?<p>2. The 5C isn&#x27;t that appealing against 5. Yes, a new product is a new prodcut, but a flagship is a flagship. In emerging markets, why do people spend a month&#x27;s salary for a phone? Because they want to show off to ohters, or at least so that people can&#x27;t show off to them. Which one do you think have more &quot;show off&quot; power? The previous year&#x27;s flagship (people don&#x27;t know when you bought it) that looks identical to this year&#x27;s flagship, or the &quot;cheap&quot; alternative?<p>3. The colorful back is suitable for really cheap devices, not seemingly cheap but actually expensive ones. They are liked by young people, mostly students, and new graduates. They don&#x27;t have much money, and prefer cheaper devices. The 5C isn&#x27;t cheap. Premium products are never colorful, for a reason.<p>4. The 5C is a worse product than the 5, technically. It probably has only about 10% larger battery capacity, but is 18% thicker and heavier. I can imagine how many cheap materials are used to make that happen.<p>5. If you look at the big picture, the trend is smaller and smaller differences between generations of iPhones. And because of the diminishing differences, people are more and more likely to choose an older generation for a cheaper price. According to one source[1], the 4S commanded 90% of all iPhone sales immediately after launch, and almost 75% a year later, before the 5 was launched. The numbers are 70% and 50% for the 5. Unfortunately, the difference between 5S and 5 is far smaller than that between 5 and 4S. Therefore, the appeal of the 5, if it were not discontinued, would only surpass that of the 4S in the past year, and maybe even able to seriously challenge the 5S in sales. The problem of the middle tier is not that it&#x27;s not appealing, it&#x27;s maybe that it&#x27;s too appealing, making the flagship device not able to stand out. Maybe Apple acted this turn not by improving the quality of the flagship (they can&#x27;t), but by lowering the quality of the middle tier.<p>6. If the 5C could generate similar earnings per unit as the 5S, why is it bad for Apple if it eats too much into the 5S&#x27;s market? Because the success of the flagship relates closely to Apple&#x27;s brand image, and Apple&#x27;s success is closely tied to its image. People don&#x27;t care about the middle tier, the success of the flagship is what reflects the company&#x27;s technical prowess, and this is a battlefield in which Apple can&#x27;t afford to lose.<p>I guess the sales numbers will tell who is right:), whether the 5C performs better than the 4S did in the last turn.<p>[1] <a href="http://macdailynews.com/2013/07/22/iphone-5-accounts-for-half-of-apples-smartphone-sales-iphone-4s-takes-30/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;macdailynews.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;07&#x2F;22&#x2F;iphone-5-accounts-for-hal...</a>
r00fusover 11 years ago
The 5C is important for one big reason: China. I expect the &quot;unlocked&quot; price won&#x27;t reflect the kind of subsidies and discounts that China Mobile and Apple can give to make it affordable for their customers.
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greymanover 11 years ago
I am curious to see how those two will sell. I can&#x27;t imagine myself to buy the not-so-cheap 5C, when for 100 eur more, I can have faster processor (which will be important thing for iOS7), much better camera, non-plastic body and other things.
nagarjunover 11 years ago
I think the iPhone 5S Fingerprint Reader is revolutionary because it is invisible: <a href="http://t.co/AfQSFqAjBy" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;t.co&#x2F;AfQSFqAjBy</a>.