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Our approach to gender diversity

27 pointsby johnwardsover 11 years ago

7 comments

rayinerover 11 years ago
I think this sort of affirmative approach is going to become more common as tech is dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century.<p>When I was an engineer, I never worked under a woman in a technical role. Since I&#x27;ve been a lawyer, I&#x27;ve had a majority of female bosses and mentors. 50 years ago, this would have been unthinkable.<p>Doctors, accountants, and many other professionals can tell the same story. Today nobody thinks twice about the head of internal medicine at a hospital being a woman. Medical schools don&#x27;t go out of their way to find qualified female candidates. Because of measures taken decades ago, these professions have achieved a level of normalcy that has totally eluded engineering as a profession.
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dep_bover 11 years ago
I can&#x27;t help but wonder how this guy would go about to fix the lack of white people using public transportation. Reserve special seats in the front of the bus? It&#x27;s discrimination all the same even though it&#x27;s well meant.<p>Please stop portraying the lack of female programmers as a problem caused by males while it&#x27;s a problem that women just choose to not do it. From what I have seen most United States tech companies are exceptionally welcome to people from all different kinds of backgrounds. All women I ever met were that worked as a programmer or related (UI, QA, etc) always treated with respect. If you&#x27;re female <i>and</i> you are an awesome programmer you will notice that you have a big advantage in this industry.
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elnateover 11 years ago
&gt; Ours is a male-dominated industry – and weaker for it<p>Has this ever actually been shown? I hear it a lot but have never heard any evidence either way. (the latter part)
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leoedinover 11 years ago
I agree with the start of the article. The tech industry (and engineering in general) suffer from a distinct lack of women. It&#x27;s a problem that starts at school and filters all the way through to the top end. It&#x27;s also a problem that&#x27;s not getting better particularly quickly - in my mechanical engineering course (graduated 2012) the class was around 12% female. It&#x27;s a slight improvement on my dad&#x27;s experience in the late seventies, but not by much.<p>I also agree that good female role models are important. Selling technology and engineering to girls as a viable route to take is the key to increasing gender equality in the field.<p>This said, we also need to accept reality. The reality is that the experts in their conference&#x27;s area are primarily men. Based on my experience, I&#x27;d be willing to be that somewhere around 95% of people who work with the database technologies the conference targets are male. Assuming that only a small proportion of people who start working with a particular technology end up being considered &quot;experts&quot; in the area, it&#x27;s fairly obvious that the pool from which to select women is diminuitive compared to that from which to select men.<p>My experience of technical presentations is that the level of expertise the person giving the presentation has directly impacts the quality of the presentation. I&#x27;d argue that by taking the approach they did singnificantly diminishes the quality of their conference. This isn&#x27;t unique to gender - if they&#x27;d selected based on any under-represented group they&#x27;d have a similar outcome.<p>Promoting female role models in tech is hard. Perhaps a compromise - ensuring female representation was at least a certain proportion - would work. Affirmative action is always a tricky area to deal with, and it is always more complicated than it first seems.
batemanesqueover 11 years ago
this kind of seems like a way to advertise the conference, but well done anyway
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bloodorangeover 11 years ago
Do you allow exporting of raw data?
jlebrechover 11 years ago
that makes absolutely no sense at all, you should invite the speaker by experience and knowledge and not anything else, the criteria should be technical and not political.<p>If there was a selection criteria of newbie then you could select women over men more aggressively.<p>I know a few great female developers but then you have to hope that they have the skills for public speaking.<p>This needs to be done at the grass roots, not at the top level.<p>But saying that, any top level female developer should be automatically included. There are some no doubt but they need to turn up.