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Why I Play Video Games

117 pointsby jackmcdadeover 11 years ago

21 comments

doctorpanglossover 11 years ago
There are a lot of things that make videogames special with respect to all sorts of stress relief and recreational activities. I think games are special in ways exercise is not, and we should really appreciate why.<p>Games are uniquely a tremendous exercise of the mind and body. When compared to a laboratory game designed without violence, Medal of Honor improved the vision of congenitally-handicapped children while the laboratory game did not. The author of the study speculated that the violence in Medal of Honor put kids into more of a neuro-plastic mood, while its emphasis on hand-eye coordination exercised the brain, the eyes and the hands in a way that improved senses.[0]<p>The game trains your strategic and tactical planning and it helps you socialize through teamwork, but that wasn&#x27;t tested. Suffice it to say, the same features cannot be said to exist in yoga, television, or cooking.<p>Games are also universal. Girls and boys, young and old, physically fit and physically infirm, poor and rich: pretty much everyone can enjoy a game.[1] It is a form of entertainment that is capable of demanding zero to full emotional, financial and intellectual engagement.<p>Compare to sports, where we can barely figure out how to have men compete fairly against women. Or playing music, where an instrument represents a minimum investment that immediately makes it inaccessible to many kids. As the most successful games favor a viral, free, multiplayer and social design, games have evolved in a Darwinian way to be as accessible and entertaining as possible.<p>I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s bad to exercise or to be outside. I just don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s substitutable, and I think it&#x27;s trivializing just how different Civilization is from canoeing. Without a doubt we ought to do both, but you can&#x27;t learn diplomacy from an oar.<p>[0] <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/science/how-video-games-could-improve-our-vision.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;08&#x2F;28&#x2F;science&#x2F;how-video-games-co...</a><p>[1] <a href="http://www.theesa.com/facts/gameplayer.asp" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theesa.com&#x2F;facts&#x2F;gameplayer.asp</a>
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lazyjonesover 11 years ago
There are many good things to say about video games (after many studies about positive effects on brain development), but I&#x27;ve come to realize that there is also a huge downside: games satisfy your yearning for accomplishments and there seems to be a finite amount of that (one could say that they give you a cheap, false sense of accomplishment, even though what people achieve in games are often real accomplishments). So by achieving much in games, you will have less &quot;hunger&quot; left to pursue achievements elsewhere and this will potentially affect careers, relationships, self-development.
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PhearTheCealover 11 years ago
Some basic exercise routines would probably have the same beneficial effects and a bunch of added ones as well. You can&#x27;t replace video games with exercise altogether (2 hours is a pretty long workout), but making it part of your &quot;unwind&quot; routine would benefit you greatly.
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jmdukeover 11 years ago
People are going to say that there&#x27;s nothing about this that&#x27;s specific to video games, which I guess is the point, right? You can work yourself to death if you want, but every piece of research I&#x27;ve read says that recreation -- up to a certain point, of course -- is going to be a long-term investment in your productivity.<p>My new post-work ritual is going for a nice run or lift and then ruining all of that physical activity with a beer&#x2F;cocktail. On the upside, I&#x27;m getting more fit than I&#x27;ve ever been; on the downside, there are significantly less explosions along the Puget Sound than there are in Pandaria or Ivalice.
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binarysoloover 11 years ago
This article could just well be titled &quot;Why I have a hobby&#x2F;life&quot;.<p>Gaming, for better or for worse, represents a very low-barrier-to-entry sort of activity, where in fact good design intentionally structures games in a way to provide a gratifying learning curve and risk&#x2F;reward. Yet I feel at some point in time we need to consider opportunity cost and externalities:<p>-Assuming that I have finite time and I derive similar amounts of joy playing video games and tabletop games, do I spend time grouping with old college roomies on Halo and shoot aliens, or do I try to coordinate a time with 4 other busy professionals, drive across town, grab some snacks, and roleplay some Call of Cthulhu on a weekly basis? Or maybe I hang out with some buddies at TechShop and we build a robot that uses facial recognition to launch whiskey shots at people?<p>-If I wanted to enjoy a narrative, do I allocate three hours, send an FB blast for movie buddies, and spend $15 sitting in a dark room with others watching a common story, or do I allocate 20-30 hours over a few days to experience the story of GTA V? Or do I pick up a book and spend a day to let my imagination take me to Westeros or Battle School?<p>-If I wanted to enjoy some music, do I play some Guitar Hero and press some controller buttons? Or join a structured choir? Or pick up some social dancing (a co-op music game with a social externality, essentially)?<p>I think gaming is FANTASTIC as an efficient way to get quick jollies, with a low barrier to entry as well as high skill requirement for advanced levels; MOBAs such as League of Legends or shooters such as Call of Duty come to mind for &quot;gaming as a skill&quot;. However, I do think other activities such as swimming, cooking, biking, amongst others, provide different externalities. And for some people these things are just better in the long run.<p>PS -- I&#x27;ve had a long history of gaming since the NES came out and love it. It&#x27;s just that personally I find it harder to manage and regulate my gaming consumption (attention span and time are the main caps) vs other activities, and I also feel that I&#x27;ve had less to show for as a gamer of twenty years (did the semipro Starcraft thing for a bit but not much more) than as a concert violinist of ten, or salsa dancer for five; so on and so forth.<p>That being said, the analytical mindset of optimizing resources given victory conditions in games probably was the main reason how I ended up being a data scientist. I feel strongly that a positive way to direct our &quot;fun&quot; towards something productive is powerful for individuals and beautiful for a society... but that&#x27;s a later step in our happiness, and for a different conversation.
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samgroover 11 years ago
I used to play video games a ton growing up (most of the ones mentioned in the article). I have tried picking up modern games as an adult, but don&#x27;t get quite the same thrill&#x2F;zone as I did as a kid. I haven&#x27;t felt immersed. I get that feeling now from rock climbing, cycling and skiing. I think it&#x27;s because after spending all day working on programming, staring at a screen and working through challenges seems too much like work.
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BlackDeath3over 11 years ago
Killer story lines, character development, a few hours of play a day... I recommend Portal. It&#x27;s short, but it kicks ass. Not many games have I considered playing through a second time immediately after the first.
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Vaskivoover 11 years ago
Altough many user have already addressed most of the good and the bad of videogames, I feel like I must share my mind.<p>Videogames are an integral part of my life. They are my main hobby. I play them, I design them and I develop them. They are my main medium and form of art.<p>I like them for exploring new worlds. To have a safe place to interact with stuff, poke them and see what they do. To experience larger than life stories. And sometimes some tiny really intimate ones.<p>It&#x27;s escapism, I know. But I usually escape to places where it would be impossible for me to go, or to be people I will never be.<p>To end this, I&#x27;ll leave you with my favourite gaming add, the one that really sums up what I feel about this beautiful, expansive and still young medium: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bqq38WZctA" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=6Bqq38WZctA</a>
HeyItsJamesover 11 years ago
I think &quot;I started playing video games and now feel fantastic and am more productive&quot; could be generalized to &quot;I allowed myself to unwind after my daily routine and now I feel fantastic and more productive&quot;<p>Anecdotally, I&#x27;ve recently started playing TF2 again after work instead of exclusively working on a side-project, and I&#x27;ll be damned if I haven&#x27;t slept better in months and have had more creativity and stamina to put toward my projects after work. For me, the takeaway from Jack&#x27;s post was to just make sure you&#x27;re giving your brain enough time to recharge. and think about other things.
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tfbover 11 years ago
Holy crap! The author and I are on the exact same page. I reached crazy levels of burnout over a year ago, and I found out that the only thing that could take my mind off of my work was fast paced shooters, namely UT99. Little did I know, becoming an integral part of the old UT99 community (see globalunreal.com) has actually improved my ability to code tenfold while giving me some pretty invaluable team-building&#x2F;management experience.
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porterover 11 years ago
I watched season 1 of house of cards on netflix. I noticed kevin spacey&#x27;s character plated halo late at night to unwind. Realized it would probably work for me too, so I bought the new metal gear game on xbox the other day. So far it&#x27;s working.
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dleskovover 11 years ago
You don&#x27;t have kids, do you?<p>I have not played anything but short streaks of casual games since the infancy of my first, maybe with the exception of 2011&#x2F;12 winter break, when I snatched a $0 deal on Broken Sword reissued for iPad and played for several days in a row, which was very recreational indeed.
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gazarenover 11 years ago
You shouldn&#x27;t need escapism to be functional. You were burned out, that&#x27;s what should be avoided. Like gambling, video games provide a reward loop that keep people coming back to them, and it only gets worse.<p>It&#x27;s odd that people in general want to stop watching television and enjoy life more, but get involved with video games, which is just as mind numbing as television.<p>I also find it very odd that in a website such as Hacker News, where hackers praise themselves as smart and productive people get carried away by playing games, which hardly generates anything.<p>Such as the studies that showed that by playing chess, you get better at chess, playing video games will make you better at one thing, playing video games. There are some side gains, but they are negligible. One would benefit a lot more from other activities.
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dnauticsover 11 years ago
you&#x27;re probably resetting your brain&#x27;s systems and reassuring your brain that, yes, there are systems with a logical flow from action to consequence to success and reward! Probably not a bad way to avoid burnout.
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orangeboxover 11 years ago
This article really hit home for me, as I had a similar experience this year: burnout after high-stress software dev (after which I didn&#x27;t even want to look at code), followed by getting back into gaming, then suddenly finding renewed motivation for (and enjoyment of) programming.<p>How do I limit my game-time to 1 hour daily? Easy, I set the Family Timer on my Xbox. I know the password, so I can extend it, but at least it&#x27;s a conscious decision. I&#x27;d highly recommend this approach to anyone who wants to try out gaming but is afraid of it sucking away too much time.
jamesjporterover 11 years ago
The point about having an outlet to destress is a really good one; its something I struggle with (feeling guilty about &quot;wasting time&quot; even though I know some amount of relaxation is necessary to stay productive).<p>Tangentially related, the author&#x27;s product looks awesome too. I&#x27;m probably going to need to make some websites for my parents businesses soon and I&#x27;d like something that I can maintain happily with emacs but that they can post to and modify from their browser; this thing looks like it might just be the ticket.
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Datsundereover 11 years ago
Why did he pick one up from craigslist? People are overpricing them so much. I found new ones on amazon for the same price.
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jackmcdadeover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve been getting so many recommendations for games I had to update the post. Thanks for the great feedback, I&#x27;m glad my post resonated with so many of you!<p><a href="http://jackmcdade.dev/blog/why-i-play-video-games#update" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jackmcdade.dev&#x2F;blog&#x2F;why-i-play-video-games#update</a>
bsirkiaover 11 years ago
Jack, you need to finish Bioshock, one of the best story-lines in a game I&#x27;ve ever played.<p>My top 3 games:<p>Red Dead Redemption<p>Deus Ex (the very first one)<p>Bioshock<p>I also think this is why I find myself enjoying good TV so much more now that I&#x27;m full-timing my startup. I can just sit, relax, and totally focus on something else for an hour a night.
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barbsover 11 years ago
Sounds like he just needed some stress-relief, rather than video-games specifically...
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kennymeyersover 11 years ago
A bit of self-promotion here. If you&#x27;re into games, and like hearing two guys rant about them, you should check out my gaming podcast: www.chips-and-bits.com and tell me how terrible it is. Feedback welcome, of course.<p>Hi, Jack.
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