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4.2.2.2: The Story Behind a DNS Legend

105 pointsby martinmlover 11 years ago

14 comments

cbhlover 11 years ago
Previous discussion: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1282213" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=1282213</a> (94 points, 1250 days ago, 39 comments)
nodesocketover 11 years ago
I noticed very strange but consistent performance behavior from Google Public DNS. Even though a DNS record was cached, the response time was in the range of 20-30ms, which is absolutely horrible. When I switched over to OpenDNS, cached response times dived down to 1ms. Needless to say just made the switch on all the servers to OpenDNS. Can anybody explain this behavior?<p>Here is the GitHub gist showing the output:<p><a href="https://gist.github.com/nodesocket/786e3b879f74c7787ca6" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;nodesocket&#x2F;786e3b879f74c7787ca6</a>
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micro-ramover 11 years ago
There are different reasons to use the various dns servers:<p>Both Google (8.8.8.8 &#x2F; 8.8.4.4) and OpenDNS (208.67.220.220 &#x2F; 208.67.222.222) can be troublesome on small networks when trying to reach local LAN devices because they resolve failures to their own search pages. My fallback here is to always try one of the L3 servers (4.2.2.1 - .6)<p>OpenDNS is my goto when I need filtering. OpenDNS is also great when changing ip addresses on domains because you can clear their public cache and make sure everything is updated and is working immediately. <a href="http://www.opendns.com/support/cache/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.opendns.com&#x2F;support&#x2F;cache&#x2F;</a><p>Google DNS tends to make youtube streaming work much better for me.<p>Even Comcast has even recently changed their dns to memorable numbers 75.75.75.75 &#x2F; 75.75.76.76
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ghshephardover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using 4.2.2.2 on almost daily basis since 2003 - every time I want to see if I&#x27;m connected to the Internet, anywhere in the world - that&#x27;s my canary.<p>It had never occurred to me to wonder <i>why</i> I was using 4.2.2.2. Just something I learned from one our network engineers, who learned it from someone else...
chrissnellover 11 years ago
I started using 4.2.2.1 in early 1999. A friend of mine was a sysadmin at Genuity (then the new owners of that block) and they used it a lot internally. I went on to show it to a lot of my fellow sysadmins and I guess a lot of other folks did the same.
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lysiumover 11 years ago
I did not understand why we shouldn&#x27;t use 4.2.2.2. If they did not wan people to use it, why is it open? Too bad none of the reports the authors has read about that were linked.
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ck2over 11 years ago
Just imagine how much traffic they get.<p>If they really didn&#x27;t want people to use it, I am sure it would be easy for them to block whole swaths of the net from using it.
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michaelhoffmanover 11 years ago
Why 18.62.0.96 in particular for testing web service? Does MIT provide that IP as a public service?
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Nuxover 11 years ago
Been using 4.2.2.2 (and 4.2.2.3) for almost a decade now.<p>In recent years I stopped using them though because of privacy and reliablility causes; I usually setup a caching server on the local host or network.
eonilover 11 years ago
Google should be tracking all the queries on their DNS server.
tlrobinsonover 11 years ago
Is there a tool for automatically benchmarking various public DNS servers (along with your ISP&#x27;s) to determine the best choice?
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liveoneggsover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve been blocked by 4.2.2.2 before for (I assume) over-use. It took a year or two but they eventually noticed my traffic..
obilgicover 11 years ago
I am curious if google is using the data from its dns service to improve the search index.
efmover 11 years ago
I use 8.8.8.8 which is Google&#x27;s public DNS