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Why PR for Your Engineering Team is not Crazy Talk

35 pointsby petesoderover 11 years ago

15 comments

jgrant27over 11 years ago
There's something important missing from the post. Interviewing. Interviewing is a horrible experience for most engineers. It's often costly in time and in preparation. Keep this in mind if you're hoping to hire anyone that's not still green in their career. Provide honest insight into the process for candidates. Keep your engineers from getting into the usual pissing contest during the white-board "dance" and under-graduate level homework details that don't really tell you anything about someone but are often just an excuse to technically "haze" a candidate.
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clinejjover 11 years ago
This was big for me when I was applying for jobs earlier this year. Teams that had a blog, updated it reasonably often talking about their recent challenges they overcame or fun projects went a long ways in making me want to work with them. The careers page is nice, but talking don&#x27;t really present the culture and specific work that gets done in a very good way.<p>There&#x27;s a couple companies that come to mind that I feel like do a pretty good job with this - Tumblr (look at some of the intern reports from this summer and the rest of the staff blog), and Etsy&#x27;s Code as Craft blog go a long ways in making their engineer teams attractive.
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peterbell_nycover 11 years ago
Great post. It&#x27;s a real issue for many startups I talk to that wonder why they&#x27;re having a hard time recruiting tech talent and haven&#x27;t spent the time to build a brand and relationship with engineers. If you happen to have a consumer brand, that&#x27;s great (Apple, Google, etc) but the most important thing is to create an engineering brand that tells the story of what kind of shop you&#x27;re going to be to work for and why people should work for you instead of one of a huge number of other startups.
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gerglesover 11 years ago
Step 2 is really the unique part here -- what you need to do is to figure out who you want before you can figure out how to communicate with them. The oldest adage in the book about speechcraft is &quot;know your audience&quot; but it really applies to any sort of communication, even 1:1 ping-type emails. Can&#x27;t emphasize enough how much you need to introspect within your org to figure out who you&#x27;re looking for if you have any chance of convincing someone that they are who you&#x27;re looking for.
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knesover 11 years ago
Great read. I was actually in the process of writing a blog post about the exactly the same thing. at Pusher (<a href="http://pusher.com/jobs" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;pusher.com&#x2F;jobs</a>) we are revamping all our jobs, about us, etc pages but also blogging more about our technical challenges and what we do as a team outside of work. Slowly but surely, we can see the increase in spontaneous applications and the quality.
sjheinzover 11 years ago
Prudent advice. Building a reputation to attract great people to your team demands honesty about who you are and how you work together. This should not manifest itself as a list of buzzwords, but a genuine introspection about what kinds of talents and personalities will benefit your team in the long run. Clearly explaining to a candidate why you want them to join your team and what it is you value about everything they have to offer can be a powerful and persuasive conversation to convince any candidate to choose your team above all others.
timrosenblattover 11 years ago
This is a good writeup.<p>In general, this type of mindset is important, especially for company founders. It&#x27;s not so much &quot;PR&quot; or &quot;sales&quot; or &quot;marketing&quot;, but more about understanding what&#x27;s important to the target audience, and explaining why what you&#x27;re offering is a good fit for what they want.<p>VCs, business partners, employees, customers...they all have a different perspective on the world, and it&#x27;s hard to be successful in business if you&#x27;re unable to get your message across.
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WhitneyLandover 11 years ago
It sounds like like you&#x27;re trying to encourage more meaningful connections between engineers and recruiters. That&#x27;s a good thing, but the term PR is a turn off even used as an analogy.<p>Even if engineers are the mark rather than the intended audience, those roles often overlap so your message should appeal to both.<p>That said I think your content is on the right track. Maybe title it something like “here’s how to encourage more meaningful connections between engineers and recruiters”...
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godisdadover 11 years ago
Excellent post. I think the aversion engineers have toward PR for teams is unfortunate. A similar attitude toward prof. networking exists. Good team PR and good professional networking is predicated on mutual benefit.<p>Teams that are innovating, working on novel problems and dedicated to quality shouldn&#x27;t be afraid to present themselves in a positive light. There&#x27;s nothing sleazy about trying to attract and retain like-minded people.
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danmccormover 11 years ago
Great post. I think this isn&#x27;t discussed enough (which just benefits those companies who have nailed it). This ties into one of my prime lessons of tech management: always be recruiting. To do that well, you have to start with an awesome idea&#x2F;company and then hone your message to get the best people working with you.
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gabesteinover 11 years ago
I think Pete is right on. Content marketing as a by-product of engineering, especially open-source engineering, is only going to become a bigger part of recruiting. Just look at GitHub. Super engineer-driven company, incredible content marketing generated by their engineers that helps them find folks.
adamjlevover 11 years ago
Pete, great advice here.<p>I definitely will push for this hard as I grow the team at makespace.com<p>Few examples of successful engineering PR: New Relic, Stripe, Uber. Of course, solving interesting problems is appealing in it self
girishraoover 11 years ago
Good stuff. Fully agree with the last point -- having the CTO or engineering lead build the story and reach out to potential hires makes a huge difference.
m1tryover 11 years ago
Cool post! I&#x27;m actually doing my own business on the pain described in the original post. Keep up the good work.
thejulieloganover 11 years ago
misleading title, though it is a nice little bow to wrap around the idea.
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