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Oakland robberies surge as investigations sputter

59 pointsby teamgbover 11 years ago

13 comments

robbiet480over 11 years ago
I live at The Grand, which is close to Broadway and Grand. In the last 6 months, I have heard one purse snatched and one assault and carjacking. Both happened in broad daylight, in heavily trafficked areas with people around. I was unable to assist OPD with the former case, but for the latter I ran down to give a statement. OPD never caught them last I heard, the car hasn&#x27;t been recovered, and an elderly couple was very shaken.<p>I get the feeling that some elements inside OPD are trying to help the public, while others are cops for the power trip (see the Riders case of the early 2000&#x27;s). OPD is absolutely stretched thin, but they are that way because Oakland is a big city and the command structure has previously had major run-ins with the DoJ (see Riders again) and therefore is very very careful about putting officers on the street. More so, they keep having issues with the DoJ (See Occupy Oakland, Scott Olsen), going so far as to the DoJ throwing down a threat of having the force taken over and reorganized, what would be a first for any organization in the US. We can&#x27;t even keep a police chief for more then a few months, or days for that matter. Howard Jordan was around from 2011 until earlier this year. A day or two before another DoJ ruling&#x2F;meeting, he suddenly retired due to a &quot;medical condition&quot;, which he still hasn&#x27;t disclosed. His replacement, Anthony Toribio, only lasted 2 days. Days. Not months. Days. The current interim chief, Sean Whent is still around, but we will see how much longer. We only have 637 officers as of last check. 637 for a town of 400,000 people.<p>Oakland has a broken government, including OPD and other services. It caused all of it&#x27;s own problems, mostly due to OPD. Oakland won&#x27;t get better until crime gets better or people start caring more about Oakland. I love my city, but I can&#x27;t do much to help, other than helping the community (see OaklandWiki.org).<p>Maybe this is rambling, but whatever, it&#x27;s out there. Oakland needs help, robbery and crime in general isn&#x27;t going to drop until someone starts to care.<p>Edited to add more details and color.
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leokunover 11 years ago
This lady:<p>&gt; Councilwoman Lynette Gibson McElhaney, who represents West Oakland, said joblessness is a big factor in the city&#x27;s robbery rate.<p>I&#x27;m not going to turn to robbery if I lose my job.<p>&gt; &quot;We have a lot fewer jobs for adults so kids experience a lot more lack, so they are not able to get things,&quot; she said, noting that some turn to robbery to get money. &quot;Really what they are after is really basic things - shoes, jackets. The things these kids are buying with money from stolen things are not flashy things.<p>She goes on like this, defending criminals and criminal activity and blaming the system. The system may suck, but resorting to guns, scaring people out of their lives and taking things from them that belong to them is not excusable. It&#x27;s criminal, and she&#x27;s a terrible person for commenting this way, and a terrible official.
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ddlathamover 11 years ago
Some interesting numbers and quotes from the article when you put them together:<p>&quot;As of July 31, Oakland had 626 officers - still far less than the 800-plus officers the city had in 2010.&quot;<p>2010: 2917 robberies<p>2013: 5311 robberies (pace through Sept. 22)<p>&quot;In early 2013, police Lt. Chris Bolton analyzed robberies across the city and found that roughly 75 percent involved a smartphone.&quot;<p>&quot;So far this year, crime, as a whole in Oakland is stagnant. Shootings are down. Homicide has dropped by 13 percent...But robberies are up. A lot.&quot;
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jijjiover 11 years ago
Its worth noting that every city on the list is a city with very strict gun laws. You won&#x27;t find the robbery rates high in cities and states which allow citizens to properly defend themselves when confronted by an attacker committing a felony on his or her person.
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cobrausnover 11 years ago
So, after reading the article and seeing that smart devices are often targets... I have to ask, is there an app that would help in these kinds of cases?<p>I&#x27;m picturing an app with a button on the main screen. Press the button, device location is uploaded periodically to a server. For bonus points, make the device look like it is powered off (although I suppose there really isn&#x27;t much you can do if they pull the battery).<p>After the fact, you might get lucky and the data reveals where the device went, which police might be able to use to track down who did it. Not sure if anything like this exists (don&#x27;t have a smartphone), but it seems like something that might be useful if you live in an area where this happens a lot.
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rdlover 11 years ago
I live in Oakland now (although I plan to be in Issaquah or Bellevue WA by the end of 2013, thank god). I&#x27;m not really a good robbery candidate (which should be obvious just by appearance), but I&#x27;d never use a cellphone, laptop, etc. in public (including in cafes) in Oakland. I leave my house by car. I&#x27;m more than adequately armed and secured at home.<p>I&#x27;ve never had a problem with crime in Oakland personally, perhaps due to this level of precaution, but I know a lot of people who have (generally females walking or using public transit, in the afternoon or at night, in uptown and affiliated areas). Think about how much your laptop&#x2F;phone&#x2F;ipad&#x2F;mifi&#x2F;etc. together are worth, and whether you want to be displaying that on the street, at a bus stop, etc.<p>The weird thing is Oakland rents in the Grand&#x2F;Broadway&#x2F;Adams Point&#x2F;etc. area are starting to approach ~2004 SF rents; a 1BR is about $1800-2k, up from about $1200 a couple years ago. I&#x27;m not sure if increasing rents will lead to less crime, since most of the people moving to Oakland are &quot;hipsters&quot; or &quot;young single people&quot;, who generally don&#x27;t prioritize security as much as families or older people.<p>(The huge amounts of crime in Oakland, which largely influence the stats, and most of the violent crime, are in the large gang&#x2F;etc. areas where no hn reader would be likely to go. A friend of mine lived in a warehouse in one of those areas, and I ended up having to drive and walk through active ~50 cop police raids on the neighbors to get to her place several times. It was pretty lulz; I would not recommend it.)<p>If Alameda became as &quot;issue on good cause&quot; as the San Mateo County Sheriff, I&#x27;d more seriously consider living here again.
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j_bakerover 11 years ago
We&#x27;re talking about robbery rates <i>doubling</i> in two years. As far as crime stats go, that&#x27;s a huge increase. I wonder what the cause of it is?
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wehadfunover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve had an iPhone stolen in Dallas. I tried to show them iPhone &quot;Find my phone&quot; feature they would not send an officer to investigate claiming that the number was only accurate to 500ft.
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malykover 11 years ago
I live in Northwest oakland (near san pablo and stanford&#x2F;powell) and the amount of robberies&#x2F;burglaries that have happened in the greater neighborhood is kind of crazy. It&#x27;s rarely more than a couple of days between reports of a break in on our Nextdoor neighborhood group. It&#x27;s quite shocking how frequent the crimes are.<p>What seems to be happening is what seems like a standard burglary scenario. Someone walks around the neighborhoods checking out places, identifies a few and candidates and takes a closer look, and then the burglary happens. The officer in the article caught a couple of people in the act after being notified about a casing incident, which is great, but it&#x27;s a drop in the bucket.
sixQuarksover 11 years ago
Not enough police enforcement. How much does the city pay in pension obligations? That&#x27;s what&#x27;s killing a lot of cities.
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niteshmehtaover 11 years ago
PG please put a RFS for a crowd sourced security system for neighborhoods. Police forces are not scalable.
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wehadfunover 11 years ago
I have not scientific, references, ... but I think if 10% of the money&#x2F;effort that has gone into the drug war went into robberies it would be stamped out.<p>It cant be hard to find a cell phone, it has a connected GPS, mike, and camera.
smtddrover 11 years ago
So in light of previous comments[1] I&#x27;ve made, I will say that this article is an example of unbias reporting highlighting core issues to try and explain the observations.<p>This kind of reporting allows one to <i>think &amp; reason</i> about the issues &amp; perhaps consider how to avoid(hopefully fix) the problem - instead of the blatant generalization like this[2][3] that only invoke fear and demoralize all the people in the city. Also, I support the headline change to match the article. The original headline is exactly what I&#x27;m talking about, just invoking fear. People who scan headlines will just memorize the headline instead of clicking into the article to understand <i>why &amp; how</i>. We know far more people read headlines than read the whole article. We need more understanding about &quot;why&quot; and &quot;how&quot;, not just &quot;what&quot;.<p>1. <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6448409" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6448409</a><p>2. <a href="http://veryhilarious.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lion-king-oakland-funny.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;veryhilarious.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2012&#x2F;01&#x2F;lion-kin...</a><p>3. <a href="http://www.joerizzo.com/broadcast/2012/images/stealing_oakland_shirt.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joerizzo.com&#x2F;broadcast&#x2F;2012&#x2F;images&#x2F;stealing_oakla...</a>