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424 pointsby pudakaiover 11 years ago

18 comments

mistercowover 11 years ago
Oh oh! I remember this technique from Cialdini&#x27;s <i>Influence</i>. During the Korean war, the Chinese used the same technique on American POWs:<p><i>For instance, prisoners were frequently asked to make statements so mildly anti-American or pro-Communist as to seem inconsequential (“The United States is not perfect.” “In a Communist country, unemployment is not a problem.”). But once these minor requests were complied with, the men found themselves pushed to submit to related yet more substantive requests. A man who had just agreed with his Chinese interrogator that the United States is not perfect might then be asked to indicate some of the ways in which he thought this was the case. Once he had so explained himself, he might be asked to make a list of these “problems with America” and to sign his name to it. Later he might be asked to read his list in a discussion group with other prisoners. “After all, it’s what you really believe, isn’t it?” Still later he might be asked to write an essay expanding on his list and discussing these problems in greater detail.</i>
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michaelwwwover 11 years ago
I was impressed by the fact checking:<p><a href="http://www.orangecoast.com/webexclusives/2013/09/24/a-factcheckers-journey-to-a-1980-afternoon" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.orangecoast.com&#x2F;webexclusives&#x2F;2013&#x2F;09&#x2F;24&#x2F;a-factch...</a>
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Pxtlover 11 years ago
That&#x27;s moderately horrifying. It&#x27;s also a sad reminder - so many of us go through life having to chisel and scrape that kind of affection out of the world. I can see how having it freely given could be very enticing.
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VexXtremeover 11 years ago
More facts: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Steven_Kraft" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Randy_Steven_Kraft</a>
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elwellover 11 years ago
Gives a different meaning to &quot;Hacker News&quot;. But seriously: a very engaging, honest story.
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sethevover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure if this anything to do with why this is on HN but Jay Roberts is Jason Roberts&#x27;s brother (Jason Roberts is co-host of the TechZing podcast).
MrJagilover 11 years ago
If any of your would like to read more about &quot;underrated&quot; serial killers after this harrowing story, Albert Fish comes to mind. Even just the wikipedia article is about as scary a horror tale as they come. Many friends have been unable to finish reading: <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Albert_Fish</a>
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popeeover 11 years ago
This story is for great (non-blockbuster) movie. Almodovar, but with good ending :-)<p>But it&#x27;s interesting to think why is author still alive. Is killer possessive gay that is willing to kill guys that are ignoring&#x2F;rejecting him? Because author didn&#x27;t reject him as many others that are now in the grave?<p>Also, even if author is wrong, really interesting and non-intrusive emotional overview.
drderidderover 11 years ago
I know there&#x27;s a policy to keep the title of the source article, but if admins are going to blindly change post titles to remove all useful context and revert to meaningless, misleading headlines, can&#x27;t they at least come up with a prefix for it? There&#x27;s Ask HN, Show HN... in this case &quot;Distract HN&quot; might have been appropriate.
nnnnnnover 11 years ago
Not sure if I&#x27;m excited that the first time I&#x27;ve seen an alum from my college (Claremont McKenna) at the top of Hacker News it is Randy Kraft...
robdimarcoover 11 years ago
whoa, I used to work with Jay about 10 years ago. Small world.
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petefordeover 11 years ago
Creepy and fascinating story. Thanks for sharing.<p>I do have two questions, though:<p>1. Polaroid wasn&#x27;t making a black and white integral film in 1980, and FujiFilm didn&#x27;t make instant film until 1981. Kodak&#x27;s instant film was color. So how did Kraft produce an instant B+W image?<p>2. Did you really drink 2-3 beers and then get on a motorbike?
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moocowduckquackover 11 years ago
This&#x27;ll get turned into a multi series drama on HBO.
Sarienover 11 years ago
Somebody should extend this article: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superficial_charm#Psychopathic_charm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Superficial_charm#Psychopathic_...</a>
FrankenPCover 11 years ago
WOW! That&#x27;s some powerful stuff! Lots to think about in the mind of a serial killing monster. This is a great premise for a indie drama.
HaloZeroover 11 years ago
Isn&#x27;t Randy Kraft still alive? I imagine the author has decided not to actually try to arrange some type of conversation with him?
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ffrryuuover 11 years ago
It&#x27;s the Earth.
blahedoover 11 years ago
Once again, some admin has changed the title from better to worse---it was &quot;How I met a serial killer when I was a marine&quot;, which is considerably more descriptive.
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