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How Seinfeld's Productivity Secret Fixed My Procrastination Problem

151 pointsby scriptstarover 11 years ago

22 comments

JackMorganover 11 years ago
I know it may elicit eye rolls, but I love using Github's built in "streak" feature for this exact thing. Best of all, it is public and motivating. I agree that it is hard to do something highly valuable on a green field project everyday, so I often work through exercises from textbooks (right now I am in the middle of SICP) to fill in days when I would otherwise just be directionless. I used to feel guilty for not "doing enough" to advance my career, and would "binge code" whenever the guilt built up too much, but now I feel so much more confident and relaxed, knowing I'm putting in a sustainable amount of high quality reading and practicing every day.
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Corover 11 years ago
I really like the Seinfeld method. It works surprisingly well for me.<p>I first came across it when I started using 750words.com, a journaling website. The website prominently displays your streak at the top of every page, and there are achievements and rewards for building up longer and longer streaks. At the moment my streak is at 572 days, which is testament to the effectiveness of the method.<p>Unfortunately, the Seinfeld method, in my experience, isn’t perfect.<p>For me, it’s only really good for small activities that can be done daily for small amounts of time. I’ve tried using it for work projects on several occasions (for example, doing 2 hours of extra work a day) and I’ve failed every time.<p>I recently came across a fix, though - <a href="http://beeminder.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;beeminder.com</a><p>Beeminder is essentially a more configurable version of the Seinfeld method. I first tested it on a goal that I’ve tried (and failed) to do several times before - ‘read and make notes on business books for one hour a day, six days a week’. Not that hard, but for some reason, I’ve always fallen off the wagon with this particular goal.<p>With Beeminder, I found it effortless. There’s something strangely satisfying about adding data onto the website. I ended up completing 30 days without much difficulty.<p>Since then, I’ve added a ton of extra goals with Beeminder, and I’ve been accomplishing them surprisingly easily. I’ve been gradually ratcheting up the difficulty on each goal (for example: I recently started with the goal of ‘spend 3 hours working on own projects every week’, and I slowly increased the goal requirements at a rate of 3 hours extra per week; currently, I’m doing an extra 24 hours a week without much difficulty on my part), which I find works really well.<p>I’ve also started using Beeminder for other goals like ‘meditate for 5 minutes every morning’, ‘go to the gym 3 times a week’, ‘cook at least 5 new recipes every week’, &#x27;spend 30 minutes cleaning the apartment 3 times a week&#x27;, and it’s worked incredibly well for each of them.<p>Beeminder has inspired a massive change in me in a surprisingly short amount of time. I’ve always thought I had a procrastination problem, or that I’m simply lazy, but Beeminder is showing me that this isn’t the case. I recommend giving it a go.
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jonmbover 11 years ago
I think having a large physical calendar works better for some people, but there are many excellent apps for using this technique too.<p>Web:<p><a href="http://www.joesgoals.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joesgoals.com</a> - <a href="http://www.42goals.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.42goals.com&#x2F;</a> - <a href="https://chains.cc/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chains.cc&#x2F;</a><p>Phone Apps:<p>Streaks: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/streaks-motivational-calendar/id345184462?mt=8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;itunes.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;streaks-motivational-calenda...</a><p>(Free) Goal Master: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/goal-master/id347105327?mt=8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;itunes.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;goal-master&#x2F;id347105327?mt=8</a><p><a href="http://wayoflifeapp.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wayoflifeapp.com&#x2F;</a>
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MikusRover 11 years ago
At least for me the &quot;streak&quot; or chain methods don&#x27;t work. Because if for any reason i happen to break the chain the probability of me returning to the task decreases the longer was the chain. For example i was doing Codecademy, broke a month long chain - did not return for a year (lost all motivation).
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dansoover 11 years ago
One of the quick hacks I like to do is create a Google Spreadsheet with my goals&#x2F;things-to-do across the top as column headers. As rows, I use dates, which can easily be generated by starting the first row with today&#x27;s date and dragging down.<p>Then, I use GDoc&#x27;s Conditional Formatting to color in cells...if there&#x27;s anything in them, perhaps a &quot;y&quot;, the cell turns green. Makes it very easy to see how consistent I&#x27;ve been...<p>If you&#x27;re not worried about making this task into a whole chore in itself, you can always add more data in each cell and then analyze it later because, hey, it&#x27;s a spreadsheet. But at the very least, you get get an easy visualization in an app you probably already use frequently and can update from just about anywhere.
B-Conover 11 years ago
I tried doing this for a while (after this or something similar surfaced on HN a year or so ago) and used Chains[1], but I didn&#x27;t feel that it helped much.<p>Honestly, a simple daily todo list as one of my &quot;app&quot; tabs is the best thing I&#x27;ve found. It puts a simple reminder of whether I&#x27;ve done something or not close to my face a couple times a day. For me, simply forgetting after I put it off the first couple times is half the problem.<p>[1] <a href="http://chains.cc" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;chains.cc</a>
ruricolistover 11 years ago
Unfortunately this doesn&#x27;t work for programming, because in programming we never really know in advance how long anything is going to take, not even within an order of magnitude: a five-day problem looks just like a five-minute problem until it&#x27;s over. It&#x27;s the worst thing about programming, the lack of granularity, and why we&#x27;re always staying up much too late.
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crazygringoover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m glad that works for some people.<p>It would never work for me, though. I can&#x27;t imagine how spending 15 min&#x2F;day on a screenplay would be productive at <i>all</i> -- when I sit down to program, or write, it takes me that long just to &quot;restore state&quot; and remember what I was in the middle of previously. I only really find myself becoming productive at things after the first <i>hour</i> -- plenty of people call this being in the &quot;zone&quot;, etc.<p>This might be a good thing to do with fairly menial&#x2F;brainless tasks, but is it really useful for more than that? But even with cleaning the house... it seems so much more efficient to spend an hour every week, when you&#x27;ve got spare time, than vacuum a room and a half one day, dust half the house the next...
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prezjordanover 11 years ago
I became obsessed with &quot;the chain&quot; and it made me absolutely miserable [0]. I imagine it works for some people, though, and I&#x27;m glad I tried it out.<p>[0]: <a href="https://medium.com/lessons-learned/ab219377be93" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;lessons-learned&#x2F;ab219377be93</a>
cl3mover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve made an iphone app for it like four years ago. It seems to work really well for some people according to the feedback I&#x27;ve got. I guess it depends if your goal is well defined and can be done easily everyday. Having such system helps to keep the inertia. You can get the app for free at: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dont-break-the-chain!/id313567772?mt=8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;itunes.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;dont-break-the-chain!&#x2F;id3135...</a>
ww520over 11 years ago
The Seinfeld productivity calendar works, at least it has helped me. So much so that I&#x27;ve created an Android app based on the idea.<p><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mhillsystem.dailybadge" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.mhillsyste...</a>
smita622over 11 years ago
We built a chrome plugin to make it easy for you to actually get a task on your calendar from anywhere without stopping your train of thought: <a href="http://get.spoton.it" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;get.spoton.it</a><p>Using all day events for things you want to check off also totally works.
vlover 11 years ago
There is a webtool for that: <a href="http://www.joesgoals.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joesgoals.com&#x2F;</a><p>I used it for awhile, then gravitated towards GTD lists, which, are, of course, not that good for periodic tasks. Maybe it&#x27;s time to try Joe&#x27;s Goals again.
arminiover 11 years ago
I had the same issue with procrastination and ended up using www.aznoe.com I would personally suggest it for anyone with that problem. That list is available on the web, ios and android so you can alway add to it no matter where you are.
coopdogover 11 years ago
And if you miss a day don&#x27;t forget to say &quot;serenity now!&quot;
usernew1817over 11 years ago
I wanna know how the author managed to write 30 pages of text in 1hr45mins (15 minutes each day for a week), the most I can manage in that time frame is most 7, 30 is incredible.
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scrrrover 11 years ago
Procrastination is just being lazy. Laziness is a habit. That person overcame the habit using this method. Good for him, but this is a somewhat complicated way of doing it.
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JoeAltmaierover 11 years ago
This is a single-person idea. My house is chaotic. Any attempt to do orderly things is quickly derailed. I&#x27;ve learned to embrace the disorder.
iambatemanover 11 years ago
Ya&#x27;ll, what amount of time do you find is enough for your streak? I am on day 11 of 1 hour&#x2F;day working on a startup concept.
_sabe_over 11 years ago
I used to think I had a procrastination problem, but my problem has never been getting started. For example, if I come up with a new personal programming project I dig right into it, and I also keep it up for a long time. But I still can&#x27;t manage to follow trough. It&#x27;s like I settle for such great perfectionism that everything ends up taking an unreasonable amount of time, and in the end I give up because it&#x27;s not practical anymore.<p>Nobody else who can relate to that?
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marincountyover 11 years ago
I had a girlfriend who loved Seinfield--memorized the episodes, etc. At first I thought it was because it was a fairly amusing T.V. show, and she grew up in upstate New York. After a lot of thought I realized the reason she loved the show is because it affirmed her selfish behavior.<p>If you don&#x27;t know what I mean; you might want to reexamine how you interact with the world? Ya, I&#x27;, talking about you Wendy.
vonskippyover 11 years ago
Must be a Gen Y thing (or whatever you call 20 somethings these days). I&#x27;m afraid to me, it seems exceedingly childish to need something like a chain of Red X&#x27;s in order to get something as simple as &quot;workout&quot; or &quot;clean&quot; or &quot;do job&quot; or &quot;work&quot; done on a consistent basis. It&#x27;s called SELF DISCIPLINE and it&#x27;s really not rocket science. Now get off my lawn.
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