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The Navy’s newest warship is powered by Linux

191 pointsby PLenzover 11 years ago

26 comments

makeropsover 11 years ago
Was curious as to who the ship was named after:<p>&quot;As the coffin passed each SEAL, they slapped down the gold Trident each had removed from his own uniform and deeply embedded it into the wooden coffin. For nearly 30 minutes the slaps were audible from across the cemetery as nearly every SEAL on the West Coast repeated the act.[8]&quot;<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Monsoor" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Michael_A._Monsoor</a>
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tytsoover 11 years ago
The Zumwalt is using Real-Time Java, using a JVM from IBM that has an incremental GC with real-time guarantees (unlike the real-time Java spec, which essentially works by disabling the GC for real-time threads, so their NonHeapRealTime threads were essentially an architected memory leak). IBM&#x27;s Real-Time Java, with their real-time Metronome GC, is running on real-time Linux, for which I was the tech lead at the IBM Linux Technology Center.<p>It was a fun project; since we were able to use the real-time Linux code base which Ingo Molnar and Stephen Rostedt worked on upstream, we spent most of our time stablizing the patches, and fed quite a few patches back upstream to get it into a production-ready state. Anyway, we had 50 microsecond interrupt and scheduler latency using real-time Linux, which allowed millisecond level real-time guarantees using garbage collected java threads.
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Amadouover 11 years ago
Anybody remember the USS Yorktown? The one that ran Windows NT 4.0 and had the apocryphal story about blue-screening and having to be towed back to shore?<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Yorktown_%28CG-48%29#Smart_ship_testbed" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;USS_Yorktown_%28CG-48%29#Smart...</a>
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kibwenover 11 years ago
<i>&quot;Almost all of the ship&#x27;s internal communications are based on Voice Over IP (with the exception of a few old-school, sound-powered phones for emergency use).&quot;</i><p>Interesting, I&#x27;d never heard of sound-powered phones before:<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound-powered_telephone" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sound-powered_telephone</a>
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anigbrowlover 11 years ago
I always find this phrase &#x27;powered by...&#x27; a bit sad when used in relation to computer software. I&#x27;m pretty sure the ship is <i>powered</i> by a large diesel engine or a small nuclear reactor. It&#x27;s <i>managed</i> or <i>controlled</i> by Linux...well, technically via Linux but that&#x27;s beside the point. A trivial objection, but I don&#x27;t care for my news reporting to read like a breathless press release complete with meaningless marketing-speak.
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ChuckMcMover 11 years ago
This will be interesting (it takes containerized data centers to an interesting place). Given that naval engagements seem to be either &#x27;unsophisticated Somali pirate&#x27; level or &#x27;super sonic ship-killer cruise missile&#x27; there isn&#x27;t a whole lot of middle ground in terms of reaction space.<p>I can say this though, I&#x27;d love to see the insides of one of these ships.
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undowareover 11 years ago
Great -- now the fragment of code I wrote for the kernel make s me potentially party to killing.<p>The long-term ethics of producing open source are fascinating -- you know we&#x27;re all pretty gross if the NRA is wrong, don&#x27;t you? About X not killing people, people killing people. &#x27;Cause we brought a whole lot of X, and gave it away, puffed with pride, to people who can name something a &#x27;dreadnought&#x27; without it being weird.
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robertfwover 11 years ago
We&#x27;ll just have to cross our fingers that they don&#x27;t run into any cylons...<p>More realistically, I wonder what the attack surface of a highly computerized, networked ship like this is? What kind of separation can you achieve between the layered networks - would there be systems that are essentially air gapped from one another?
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Shish2kover 11 years ago
&gt; more than 235 equipment cabinets (racks) in total<p>I wonder what they&#x27;re doing that needs that much processing power? Or is it that every part of every subsystem has a dedicated server assigned to it no matter how little power it needs, just to stop the <i>possibility</i> of interference?
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dhimesover 11 years ago
This is the year of the Linux warship.
auctiontheoryover 11 years ago
It&#x27;s James &quot;A.&quot; Kirk. Boo hiss. Source: <a href="http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/ddg1000/Pages/bio1.aspx#.UmFwfmRAT8k" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.public.navy.mil&#x2F;surfor&#x2F;ddg1000&#x2F;Pages&#x2F;bio1.aspx#.U...</a>
milliamsover 11 years ago
The article seems to mention that they are running LynxOS, not Linux. Can anyone clarify?
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jdubsover 11 years ago
A few software licenses restrict the use of software in use of nuclear weapons &amp; other WMD. I&#x27;m sure this vessel is capable of launching nuclear weapons, but it makes me wonder if the government will honor those license agreements or even if they were apart of the consideration.
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chatmanover 11 years ago
Wow, what a surprise!!! Incredibly surprising, but you know what, even most mobile phones and most servers in the world are powered by Linux too!!<p>Jokes apart, almost any organization or commercial project out there which requires a new OS to be built from scratch prefer to use the Linux kernel.
njharmanover 11 years ago
An improvement in OS choice over <a href="http://gcn.com/articles/1998/07/13/software-glitches-leave-navy-smart-ship-dead-in-the-water.aspx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;gcn.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;1998&#x2F;07&#x2F;13&#x2F;software-glitches-leave-n...</a>
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antsarover 11 years ago
&gt; The CDS workstation uses common USB interfaces for its peripheral devices (such as trackballs and specialized button panels)<p>This could open up some interesting potential vulnerabilities, but I&#x27;m assuming&#x2F;hoping that they&#x27;ve thought of that.
ck2over 11 years ago
Hopefully it will reduce the cost, albeit slightly.<p>Why exactly do we need so many warships and aircraft carriers?<p>I mean what exactly are we doing with thirteen aircraft carriers that cost a small fortune to run?
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Nuxover 11 years ago
Guess it&#x27;s not first time when Linux facilitates mass murder and misery, or of course, <i>ahem</i> national defense.<p>What a shame. GPL should have a clause &quot;do no evil&quot;.
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chris_wotover 11 years ago
To hell with Linux, the US Military use CORBA?
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wslhover 11 years ago
Imagine a science fiction story where someone introduces a backdoor in the Linux kernel or in some known command...
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mpyneover 11 years ago
The Navy has actually <i>used</i> Linux within warships for awhile now (via its defense contractors). The boat I served on a few years ago used Linux for at least two different subsystems. And before Linux they&#x27;ve used UNIX so it&#x27;s not as if the Navy is completely new to all this.
FrojoSover 11 years ago
I once heard that the Navy has a electronics phobia and relies as much as possible on mechanical and physical human control because EMP (e.g. du atomic bombs) are such a big thread. Maybe this is untrue or only true for key vessels like air craft carries. Does anyone know?
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cweaverover 11 years ago
Does anyone know how those EMEs compare in size with existing control systems? They seem quite large for what I assume they do.
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polskibusover 11 years ago
where&#x27;s the source code though?
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jstalinover 11 years ago
I wonder what an EMP would do to it.
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lispmover 11 years ago
Wonderful, just what the US needs: more weapons.