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Project Shield

159 pointsby ashishbharthiover 11 years ago

22 comments

devxover 11 years ago
Serious question: what happens if say Wikileaks or Snowden or the next important whistleblower uses this service, and then the head of DHS, FBI, DOJ, etc (not a Court) &quot;gives a call&quot; to Google? Will Google &quot;protect their free expression&quot;, or comply with the order within hours, like Amazon did [1]?<p>Google may have great lawyers and a lot of money, but what if they tell them &quot;hey, you know that tax-free money you&#x27;re sending to the Bermuda [2]? Yeah, FTC will be knocking on your door tomorrow to ask you about that&quot;.<p>So I guess what I want to know is if Google will actually stand their ground and protect their users till the end by doing the <i>right thing</i>, or they&#x27;ll &quot;compromise&quot; if the potential cost to their business is too great. Maybe in the past it was easy to believe Google would actually do the right thing, but it&#x27;s becoming increasingly harder to believe that.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-website-cables-servers-amazon" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;2010&#x2F;dec&#x2F;01&#x2F;wikileaks-websi...</a><p>[2] <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/101104483" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;id&#x2F;101104483</a>
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srhngprover 11 years ago
On an unrelated note, I had never seen the withgoogle.com domain before and I did some searching and found all these other projects, initiatives, landing pages, and even online courses:<p>- Chromebook mobile site: <a href="http://us.chromebook.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;us.chromebook.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Developer Bus: <a href="http://developerbus.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;developerbus.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Full Value of Mobile: <a href="http://www.fvm.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fvm.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Google Analytics Academy: <a href="https://analyticsacademy.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;analyticsacademy.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Google Expert: <a href="http://expertbrasil.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;expertbrasil.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Google Wallet Instant Request Form: <a href="http://getinstantbuy.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;getinstantbuy.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Mapping: <a href="https://mapping.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mapping.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Online Marketing 101: <a href="https://onlinemkt101.withgoogle.com/preview" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;onlinemkt101.withgoogle.com&#x2F;preview</a><p>- Royal Baby Congrats Card: <a href="https://royalbabycard.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;royalbabycard.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Tour Builder: <a href="https://tourbuilder.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tourbuilder.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Web Accessibility: <a href="https://webaccessibility.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webaccessibility.withgoogle.com</a><p>- YouTube Creator Academy: <a href="https://creatoracademy.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;creatoracademy.withgoogle.com</a><p>- Your Tour (Tour de France): <a href="http://yourtour.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;yourtour.withgoogle.com</a><p>Non-English:<p>- <a href="http://vpered.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;vpered.withgoogle.com</a><p>- <a href="http://docchinogame.withgoogle.com/pc/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;docchinogame.withgoogle.com&#x2F;pc&#x2F;</a><p>- <a href="http://minchizu.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;minchizu.withgoogle.com</a><p>- <a href="http://ennovate.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ennovate.withgoogle.com</a><p>- <a href="http://brasilfreewifi.withgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;brasilfreewifi.withgoogle.com</a>
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Systemic33over 11 years ago
Seems like its just a straight up competitor to Cloudflare. There doesn&#x27;t&#x27; appear to be any direct revenue gain from this, maybe this is more of a mafia protection kinda thing (as in protecting its interests, the websites hosting its ads).<p>Does anyone know what it takes to mitigate DDoS, at this kind of scale?
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mariusz79over 11 years ago
I can already see the headlines: &quot;Beginning January 1st 2016 Google will discontinue Project Shield&quot;
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jjoeover 11 years ago
Based on the wording, technology used is going to be a mixture of IP Anycast (traffic sharding) and cache proxying (serve content through), which is what CF does. Except google has all the cash and resources to throw at the problem without putting a dent on their bottom line.<p>But the interesting tidbit coming out of this project&#x27;s going to be the internal packet&#x2F;traffic scrubbing system they&#x27;ve developed. Will it be commercialized or will it spawn a new startup. So many positive outcomes however it ends up.
United857over 11 years ago
NVidia already has something named Project Shield -- although it has nothing to do with this. Wonder if this is confusing enough for a trademark case.
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Geeeover 11 years ago
Isn&#x27;t it a clear that they set this up to track users to those kinds of sites and feed NSA with that information? Also, they get to control what information they want to let out. Call me paranoid, but I don&#x27;t trust Google a bit here.
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chanuxover 11 years ago
I think <i>protect free expression online</i> is too precious of an idea to be used there. But that&#x27;s just my opinion.
ck2over 11 years ago
Every time I see a new google product launch, in the back of my mind I start to wonder when it will be shut down.
snirdover 11 years ago
&quot;protect free expression online&quot;? and who will protect us from google itself?...
clebioover 11 years ago
Whoa, interesting Captcha (sorry to go on a tangent). Looks a bit like crowd-sourcing their street-view work (though could of course be sourced from all sorts of other things).
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znowiover 11 years ago
&gt; Project Shield is an initiative to use Google&#x27;s infrastructure to protect free expression online<p>How peculiar. The tech is DDoS mitigation, but the PR focus is on &quot;free expression online&quot;, Syrian gas attacks, and evil Iran.<p>Wonderfully executed. The internet crowd is cheering the &quot;free speech&quot;, the government approves of the Middle East angle.<p>Meanwhile, PRISM keeps working and very few care about it.
carover 11 years ago
How will Google determine which opinions to protect?<p>As wonderful as Project Shield sounds, there is a fundamental risk of it being undemocratic.
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Theodoresover 11 years ago
I am not being funny, however, shouldn&#x27;t this form be https? Or did I miss something?
lnanek2over 11 years ago
Kind of a bad name choice with NVIDIA Shield being a popular topic in tech and gaming circles right now.
pearjuiceover 11 years ago
<i>Good goy, come host your government neglecting data with us, we promise we won&#x27;t hurt you!</i>
nevesover 11 years ago
Great! Now the NSA can monitor every dissident of the world without the need to search for them.
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daljeetvover 11 years ago
One more step toward Google creating a complete and comprehensive end to end solution
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lazylizardover 11 years ago
so this is like cloudflare but for people whom google like?
chadwicktheboldover 11 years ago
Hopefully this project will come with increased openness about Googles complicity in the PRISM scandal. It would be rather ironic if this ends up protecting free speech everywhere except in America.
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tharshan09over 11 years ago
github needs this.
Fandoover 11 years ago
Wow, what a load.