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The E-Cigarette Industry, Waiting to Exhale

69 pointsby sschwartzover 11 years ago

17 comments

pvnickover 11 years ago
E-Cigarettes are going to save millions of lives in the coming years. They&#x27;re harmless, and, if you get a brand that feels like the real thing, easy to transition to. I hope the tobacco industry takes a huge financial hit from the sale of these things because they literally prevent people from dying.<p>That being said, when I switched to e-cigarettes, it was very easy to switch back to regular cigarettes. That &quot;narrow bridge of familiarity&quot; was easy to cross back over, especially when I ran out of vapor cartridges. Ultimately for me to quit it took stopping cigarettes cold-turkey. Nicotine gum and a transition to regular gum helped a lot. It&#x27;s been one of the hardest but most rewarding things I&#x27;ve ever done in my life.
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rickdaleover 11 years ago
I used to run a custom e-cigarette company. We sold it this summer.<p>My take away was that the federal government eventually will get involved and start regulating the shipping of these items. Unfortunately the stuff people are getting now is mostly made in China and you can&#x27;t be too certain of what the heck you are getting when you take a big inhale and just taste the apple flavoring or whatever. Who knows what chemicals are used to make them.<p>Most of the testimonials I received was from people that were able to quit smoking because of my product, but I definitely got some complaints as well. The biggest benefit of the e-cig is that is is little to no smell. Definitely hit them on airplanes before with no problems. It is an interesting market though where it seems like new types of e-cigs are coming out all the time.<p>Another thing about e-cigs is that people are making them into e-joints. This is very popular especially in medical marijuana states. Before they banned synthetic marijuana, we were developing a synthetic marijuana e-cig. Would have been fun to have around, but ultimately I am glad not to be filling in mass them any more!
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bcxover 11 years ago
It is really interesting to look at this article through the lens of the PR agency&#x2F;strategy that helped place it for NJOY.<p>1) Quotes from CEO<p>2) Little anecdote from Chief Marketing Officer<p>3) Big vision &quot;Vaping&quot; becomes common place.<p>4) Key differentiators: &quot;building e-cigarettes that look, feel and perform like the real thing&quot; (this is sprinkled throughout)<p>5) Celebrity endorsement, Big names: Peter Thiel, Brunno Mars<p>The rest (post first page) is a nice over view of the e-cigarette industry, and some challenges facing NJOY. I wonder how long they were working on a NYT article, of if this was something pretty easy for them to get, given interest around e-cigarettes.
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300bpsover 11 years ago
I am starting to see people puffing on these stupid e-cigarettes in restaurants that ban cigarette smoking. When you say something to them they invariably try to &quot;educate&quot; you on what an e-cigarette is and how it&#x27;s different. The problem is that e-cigarettes have not been shown to be safe. From the article:<p><i>Most public health officials seem to agree that the levels of toxins in e-cigarettes are far lower than those in traditional cigarettes. But they also say that far too little is known, not just about potentially harmful aspects of particular brands of e-cigarettes, but also about whether there is harm from “secondhand vapor.” Dr. Glantz of U.C.S.F. says that in the absence of data, indoor smoking bans should also cover e-cigarettes.</i><p>The FDA is collecting reports of adverse effects and there are plenty:<p><a href="http://www.fda.gov/downloads/aboutfda/centersoffices/officeofmedicalproductsandtobacco/aboutthecenterfortobaccoproducts/ucm361437.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fda.gov&#x2F;downloads&#x2F;aboutfda&#x2F;centersoffices&#x2F;officeo...</a><p>I understand why my mother started smoking when she was 16 and then smoked a pack a day for the next 43 years until she died from cancer. Why in the world are people starting to smoke today with everything we know about it?
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tluyben2over 11 years ago
A lot of smokers I know switched to these things. They &#x27;smoke&#x27; (is that the proper word with such an e-cig?) far more than they did before. Some of them use them every second they have nothing todo with one of their hands, which basically means they&#x27;re puffing most of their waking day. I hope for them these things don&#x27;t turn out to be as bad as&#x2F;worse than normal cigs...
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cliveowenover 11 years ago
I can&#x27;t fathom who thought these things were a good idea. I see people &quot;smoking&quot; these things everywhere: on the bus, on the train, at the effing university during classes!<p>I don&#x27;t care if it&#x27;s just steam, I don&#x27;t want it in my face. I can&#x27;t believe people don&#x27;t get this.
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argumentumover 11 years ago
<i>“The very thing that could make them effective is also their greatest danger,” said Dr. Tim McAfee, director of Office on Smoking and Health at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.</i><p>It&#x27;s exactly this kind of thinking that started and perpetuates the pernicious war on drugs. It&#x27;s the root of the (proven false) &quot;gateway drug&quot; phenomenon.<p>The &quot;thing&quot; by the way is the fact that <i>they don&#x27;t do any harm</i>. How absurd and ridiculous ..
ams6110over 11 years ago
Smokers getting annoyed looks at a Stones concert??? My how times have changed. The last time I saw the Stones in concert the entire venue was so filled with cigarette (and I&#x27;m sure other) smoke that when the house lights came up at the end of the show the place looked like a Cheech and Chong scene.
qwertaover 11 years ago
I do not understand why some people try to regulate this. My guess is that income from smoking-tax is shrinking.<p>I never smoked cigarette in my life, but I tried e-cigs as a replacement for coffee. It works, no hassle with tea or coffee preparation, also it is probably healthier. But being labeled as a smoker puts me off.
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danpalmerover 11 years ago
If I smoked, it certainly wouldn&#x27;t be something I would show off to others readily or be proud of in any way, I&#x27;d see it as an embarrassment. Even if these are safer, I still consider them to be anti-social.<p>I&#x27;m not a smoker, but I can&#x27;t see why e-cigarettes should be anything more than a way to help stop smoking.
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hershelover 11 years ago
Since people here talk about the difference of e-cigs and cigarettes , i.e. the lack of effects on MAOI, have anybody tried any juice that claims to have that effect on MAOI, for example &quot;aroma ejuice&quot; ?<p>How were the results for you ? And does anybody know about research or regulation of this types of ejuices ?<p>And since those same MAOI affecting compounds(probably beta carbolates) found in tobacco ,are found in brewed coffee, kinds of seasoning, grilled foods and other stuff, have anybody noticed a combination of vaping and some food more effective ?
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rogerthisover 11 years ago
I really feel like an ET. I&#x27;m from a world of cigarrete tv commercials; marlboro mclaren car; my mom, at 73, still smokes, daddy smoked until his last day and his death cause was not related to tobacco; grandfathers too; I studied in a technical high school where the teenagers could freely smoke; in university, there was one teacher that smoked cigars in the classroom...lost world of youth.
stevewillowsover 11 years ago
I recently switched from smoking half a pack a day to vaping about 95%. I still smoke here and there, but the craving is covered.<p>I had one of those smokes that looks like a cigarette, but it was garbage. The e-liquid with a KangerTech EVOD is the way to go.<p>Outside of the health benefits or whatever, the smell is one of the best reasons to switch. It&#x27;s a good career move.
girvoover 11 years ago
I used a nicotine spray. I have done for a few months now, it works sublingually. I used it (and patches) to quit smoking, and I&#x27;m nearly there, only a few weeks left.<p>What I find interesting though, is that while the spray does indeed get rid of the cravings, it (and the e-cigs I&#x27;ve used) is not the same &quot;feeling&quot; as smoking. This is possibly because of the lack of any MAOIs in the liquid itself.<p>How many of those using e-cigs here are ex-smokers? How many picked it up because it&#x27;s a socially &quot;acceptable&quot; drug that you can now take without killing yourself slowly? I find it such a fascinating topic!
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dageshiover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve always thought that part of what made quitting cigarettes so hard is the social aspect. Laws preventing it force fellow smokers together in designated areas where I guess they smoke and chat. To suddenly quit not only means you&#x27;re suffering from the physical withdrawl but also the social aspect. e-cigs seem like the only alternative to actual cigarettes which mean you don&#x27;t lose that social aspect since you can hang out with other smokers while you vape, should you wish.
balbaughover 11 years ago
One thing these e-cig companies could try in order to boost their rep is raising public awareness of the importance of recycling batteries.<p>Imagine battery recycling stations at all the places that cell these e-cigs which contain batteries themselves.
SimpleXYZover 11 years ago
Here is my guess: 2&#x2F;3 of cancer is from smoke, 1&#x2F;3 is from nicotine. E-cigs are 66% safer&#x2F;better than analog cigs.