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Learn Web Development: From Novice to Employable

112 pointsby mzelinkaover 11 years ago

9 comments

apsurdover 11 years ago
Constructive criticism:<p>I think the video should be 100% about &quot;what&#x27;s in it for me&quot; (the user). I understand the reason why you are introducing the people behind the project, but after 1minute in the video becomes &quot;about howtocode.io&quot; and less about &quot;me&quot;. I closed the video after that to be honest.<p>Again, I get that you are providing validation and answering &quot;why should I trust you&quot; but honestly, unless you can say something that a beginner would value like &quot;I founded Twitter&quot;, or &quot;I work for Microsoft&quot; (used to illustrate people can relate to a brand name regardless of how our inner-circles perceive them.) then it becomes a waste of the 30 seconds I&#x27;m giving you as to what&#x27;s in it for me and how can I start receiving value RIGHT NOW.<p>In writing this, actually I think most everyone that has asked me for advice in how to code vet sites by word of mouth and by proxy i.e. &quot;Jade what do you think about this site?&quot; or &quot;well Google has it as #1&quot; or &quot;well on youtube this has 1 million views&quot; etc.<p>So in summary, I think you should not _lead_ with vetting yourself.<p>EDIT: I watched more of the video. You use language like &quot;we will teach you..&quot; and &quot;our goal is to&quot; which illustrates the point that you are talking about yourselves rather then the user. Changing it to &quot;You will build a basic webpage and host it online entirely yourself in the first week&quot; shifts the subject to the user, because it&#x27;s always all about the user.
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bstar77over 11 years ago
I love the efforts to build these types of resources, I just hope this isn&#x27;t redundant with Michael Hartl&#x27;s tutorial.<p>Also, I&#x27;m not a believer in TDD, especially with beginners. I find it tedious especially when prototyping an app, which I almost always do before starting a non-trivial project. Once my prototype works reasonably well, I do a refactor with good test coverage in an effort to produce production ready code.<p>I&#x27;m a huge believer in testing, just not TDD.
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VaedaStrikeover 11 years ago
What I&#x27;d like would be a &#x27;From Novice to Employable using Clojure&#x27;<p>I&#x27;ve heard some nice things about Ruby, but I think I&#x27;m too much of a spoiled noob in my exposure to Clojure. I&#x27;d even take a class if it was Scala or Erlang or something along those lines.<p>Sometimes I hate being a spoiled noob, because I&#x27;d really like a job programming, but I don&#x27;t want to pause learning Clojure unless I&#x27;m learning some language that seems to be at least close to it. But trying to get a job whene you can build stuff in Clojure but not much else (I&#x27;ve done a little in Python too, and did enjoy that a bit) is a tough task. Or at least it has been for me up to this point. Virtually everyone wants some veteran Java or Python hacker who&#x27;s also got Clojure chops.<p>A job in Clojure centric web development...is it too much to ask?
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mlangdonover 11 years ago
As a recent novice-to-employed developer myself, I would caution against jumping into the rails stack. This is not a knock on rails, however. Where I live (Michigan, US) there are plenty of web dev job openings at any given time. But about 50% are C# MVC or ASP.net, another 25% are PHP drupal or wordpress and then come Django, Rails and the rare node job.<p>My point is if &quot;employable&quot; is the goal, check out the jobs listed on stackoverflow and indeed, etc., in your area before picking a learning plan.<p>(Incidentally, I learned Java&#x2F;Android and Python and count myself very lucky to be employed in non-web dev.)
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_raulover 11 years ago
I&#x27;d like to see things like some hours of face-to-face mentoring per week (via skype or hangouts) and extra exercises and reviews in the Premium plans. There are almost no online resources providing such features, and I find them extremely important when teaching to beginners as I explained in a recent post: <a href="http://bit.ly/HjiCpm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bit.ly&#x2F;HjiCpm</a>
exo_duzover 11 years ago
Currently this is the big thing on the Internet. Teaching people how to code.<p>I really believe &quot;Knowledge empowers the person&quot;. So keep up the good work guys! The more learning experiences out there the better knowledgable about the Internet, web technologies for the public.
MWilover 11 years ago
Meanwhile, while you&#x27;re waiting for users to fully build out the content I can head to General Assembly or CodeSchool or CodeAcademy or Lynda or any other site.<p>Just sayin, don&#x27;t underestimate the person who wants to learn now, not wait.
RRRAover 11 years ago
Is there something like this but that could do both (or either) Drupal and Node? :)
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userlabsover 11 years ago
thanks i like