how much longer must this be debated? every year we debate, we spend more and get more sick<p>the experiment is over, single-payer wins. the global healthcare experiment is fifty years old. single-payer wins and the nations with single-payer have better balance sheets than those that don't. they're also healthier.<p>whats the point of experimenting further? what else is there to learn that will be of greater value than getting people healthy now?<p>healthcare is not a business. you care if other people are getting good healthcare. you don't you say? well, do you go to the movies periodically? better hope that person next to you doesn't have untreated TB, or something else nasty, otherwise you're dead and your own health coverage won't help...its only a billing system, not a cure-all. when people can't get sick from sharing the air in a room, i'll admit i don't care about the healthcare other people get.<p>and if single payer doesn't work, then lets get rid of it for the military, because thats how their system works.<p>saw a reference to milton friedman and his thought on healthcare today on HN. we're so dogmatic about being conservative capitalists that we cannot admit that those nations that have embraced friedman the most tightly are also the most indebted. USA, japan, etc. time to just admit that friedman was wrong, his teachings have destroyed at least two great western economies. the further away from friedman an industrial economy is, the less indebted it tends to be. how paradoxical is that...the nations that have rejected balls-on capitalism are showing better balance sheets than those that embraced it. live and learn