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Portable Native Client

179 pointsby amaksover 11 years ago

17 comments

azovover 11 years ago
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ActiveX</a> - 1996 is knocking… yes, I know - it&#x27;s very, very different this time, but still can&#x27;t help remembering the horrors of ActiveX :)<p>PS. From Wikipedia article: <i>In principle it [ActiveX] is not dependent on Microsoft Windows, but in practice, most ActiveX controls require either Microsoft Windows or a Windows emulator</i><p>PPS. I&#x27;m not really trying to compare them, just pointing out that obsessive idea to run Photoshop in browser is almost as old as browser and photoshop themselves. And so is the idea for a grand platform that will let us &quot;write once, run everywhere&quot;. Uncountable attempts were made, yet somehow they all fall short of expectations. Is the idea itself flawed? Perhaps we have different operating systems for a reason?..
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RyanZAGover 11 years ago
Ugh. Sounds like the next IE6 is here...<p>Can&#x27;t wait to log into a bank that demands I installed Chrome to use their new &#x27;security&#x27; or some web apps that won&#x27;t run in anything but Chrome.
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cia_plantover 11 years ago
PNaCl has been in development for a while, I&#x27;m having trouble understanding just what is being announced here. Is PNaCl now enabled by default in Chrome?<p>I also hadn&#x27;t seen pepper.js before, is that new?
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bsimpsonover 11 years ago
Be interesting to see if this becomes a target for other languages, e.g. allowing browser applications to be written in Python.
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_random_over 11 years ago
Very good news! A lot of developers don&#x27;t like JavaScript and HTML. Google started to listen. I really hope the rest of big players will follow the suite.
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thrownaway2424over 11 years ago
The demos are cool, but are there any among them that can&#x27;t be done in JS? I know I&#x27;ve seen Voronoi polys in JS that were way less janky than the one in the PNaCL demo.
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tluyben2over 11 years ago
It says &#x27;LLVM style intermediate code&#x27;; why not actual LLVM intermediate code? What would be the reason for an alternative? If it would be actual LLVM code it would be easier to compile from programming languages and to different backends, right?
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peterhuntover 11 years ago
For anyone who works on Chrome: does this mean that Chrome won&#x27;t move to support asm.js? I tried searching the bug tracker and discussion group and couldn&#x27;t find anything.<p>In general I&#x27;m really happy that we&#x27;re getting faster (no-gc) runtimes, but I think I favor asm.js&#x27;s approach due to its backwards compatibility (though I admit I am not aware of the nuances of each implementation).
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Fr0styMattover 11 years ago
Why do people keep saying that PNaCL is like ActiveX, when it&#x27;s nothing of the sort? Is this a failing on Google&#x27;s PR?
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willvarfarover 11 years ago
Great news for zerovm too! Will this mean apps that run seamlessly on ARM and X86 boxes?
icefoxover 11 years ago
Anyone know why it takes so long to load any of the demos on <a href="http://gonativeclient.appspot.com/demo/bullet" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;gonativeclient.appspot.com&#x2F;demo&#x2F;bullet</a> ? They simply take way to long.
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pritambaralover 11 years ago
One thing I am concerned about is, since PNaCl is essentially yet another platform, how Google (or anyone) is going to manage the host of supporting tools required. Tools like dependency management, libraries, process control etc.<p>By the way, Google has already proven their &quot;platform-creation&quot; skills with Android.
smegelover 11 years ago
How is this different to Javascript? They both get jitted to native code (v8, llvm)...what&#x27;s the benefit?
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ThinkEzyover 11 years ago
I am actually looking at saying good bye to browser (html &#x2F; css &#x2F; js and all the madness) and hello to apps that connect to dropbox or s3 or some such cheep server.
augustlover 11 years ago
Isn&#x27;t it better to ship uncompiled C++ code directly, instead of decompiling and recompiling already compiled code?<p>Honest question, I&#x27;m a noob at compilers :)
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cekover 11 years ago
When this is supported natively in Safari on iOS it will be interesting.
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djvu9over 11 years ago
asm.js is a better answer.
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